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OBD Convo #17: Beyond Ultimate

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Masterblack06

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And when throw how much bigger Jupiter is to Earth.



Saitama would obliterate the Earth with same sneeze
Might not blow it up depending on how close he is actually. He might just bore a hole straight through it. I feel like if he was a lot close to jupiter he would definitely have sneezed through it
 
Like I said, I'm not going to do it unless it's proven without a shadow of a doubt that Saitama or Garou alone matches it.
I don't give a rat's ass otherwise and even then, I'll know Saitama will reach that level anyway so I seriously don't give a shit.
 

Flowering Knight

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I mean right now I'm willing to believe that Saitama's around star/large star level+ when at max potential but planetary otherwise. Though for all intents in purposes he's basically still planet+ in debates unless the OP specifies that he's bloodlusted or w/e

Really the star level stuff is actually where I'm most surprised with about the whole thing since I actually expected the series to cap out at only planet level. Even if I have joked about universal OPM in the past
 

Paxton

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OPM is universal. Unlike To Aru.
 

Like I said before, I ultimately expect Saitama and God to basically reach Galaxy or Universal or even Multiversal sooner or later because we know that basically Murata shat the bed(Even though this whole thing shows that Saitama explicitly ramps up with potential rather than that power being there from the start).

All I'm arguing is that giving them both Star System+ alone for that individually, rather than them both combined getting that due to how it happened at all.
Otherwise I don't give a damn, I know he still gets wiped out even by DBZ level foes, American Comic Book heroes, LN/VN atrocities and Dark Tower. That's where I'm sitting at right now.
 

OtherGalaxy

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the thing is we are scaling all of those characters who clash with SP or are on his general tier off of that same single feat that is never once again replicated. GE knocking over cars with one punch doesnt even come close to it, nor do Sheer Heart Attack's explosions. But we don't throw the feat out because we know it's just a higher end feat for Star Platinum.

I dont have an issue with the splitting of the DC between Saitama and Garou since it was their combined power that did this, I just disagree with the idea that because they peaked in one area and then didn't reach that height again, the feat is invalid. Tons of series do this, One Piece is probably the most notorious as literally nothing visually compares to Sickbeard when we have several characters running around right now stronger than he is.
 

Claudio Swiss

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Don't give a shit but I said long ago Universal Saitama EOS with God is pretty likely anyways so it wouldn't surprise me
 

Yeah, and I ultimately took that back because I realized that wasn't what I was trying to say.
That's why I went back and if that is the case, then split the DC and don't pretend that either alone stack to it.
Otherwise, I'm not going to judge it based on sight alone because I have seen terrible arguments done because of sight alone and I'm not partaking in that.
I don't even partake it in it for series I like, why would OPM be different?
 
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