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OBD Convo #40: Back and Forth

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To be fair to me (as a total unbiased perspective ofc) I can see Rebecca's worth, but her Chemistry with David was not as good as Lucy's.



Also the Final Scene on the moon did endear me to Lucy quite a bit. Losing everything you held dear to achieve you dreams, only to realize it wasn't worth it is a Kino story to me lol
I'mma be real, I thought this was based on Becca and Lucy in general, which is why I have them on par with each other. If this is based on who had better chemistry with David, then that's obviously Lucy. The show made that abundantly clear.
 
It's honestly why during COV-ID, alot more people became religious instead of becoming atheists... oh wait.

Seriously, this shit is consistently why people despise Atheists at their core, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that every Mythology has some basis in reality based on actual evidence that it happened?

Every religion talks about a Great Flood that happened in the past and it's been highly speculated that there has in fact been a Great Flood of that magnitude in Human History. The Greeks talk about the battles of Troy and while it's hard to say if the people existed, there is very much speculation Troy was a real place. The Bible explicitly uses real people and real events with, as many others stated, Herod, Tiberius, Rome, Nero, Xerxes, etc, etc.

It's like trying to act like most scientists aren't religious when it's a well known fact that most of the greatest known scientists... is religious and explicitly believe in a higher power and even go to that route as just because something is explained, doesn't mean they know for certain that's where the mustard comes from.
Yeah, and it looks like it'll remain speculation, for now. If a global flood genuinely occurred, there would be evidence for it everywhere that would be simple for us to spot, given our current methods. All we've ended up getting, is the regions with past human settlements, which would ultimately go on to expand out into the much broader groups of people we have today, each dealing with their own particularly bad, localized floods, which became a deeply rooted memory that ultimately became mythologized as a 'global flood' when, based off everything we've discovered, it was seemingly anything but.(This could change in the future, when our tech and methods improve, but as of now, a global flood happening in humanity's past seems highly unlikely, based on a lot of factors)

As for Troy, there's a lot more evidence for that genuinely being a thing, along with the war, but the exact details we just aren't sure of. Probably never will be, sadly, unless we invent time travel at some point.

What we do know, is that Homer's account, on some level, had to be accurate, as the dude gave the exact location of where Troy was, and the research conducted there has made it clear that battles have absolutely taken place there.

As for scientists, to go on a tangent here, I do love how most atheists who are incredibly vocal try real hard to come off as more intelligent, for following science, but only prove they don't understand it at all, as the sheer amount of times I've seen these idiots talk in absolutes, when in science, due to its ever evolving nature with us still having a LOT of shit left to discover about the universe, any real scientist worth their salt will tell you, there IS no absolutes.

My favorite being whenever any of them say some variation of "With science, we can definitively prove that God or Gods don't exist." and I'm just like "No, you can't? Did you retards miss the most fundamental principle of proper science, in your attempt to lash out at religious people?" And then I remember that most of these niggas don't usually follow proper science that truly seeks to fully understand the world we live in. They instead follow "The Science" most of the time, because it, hilariously and ironically, supports their beliefs. Which they claim to not have.

Stupidity at its finest, from people who want to believe themselves smarter than they are. :heston
 
Shit damn it says something that there might have actually existed legitimate giants in the past. Something that also tends to appear in multiple mythologies.
I hope that shit turns out to be real,would be cool the idea of coming from giants might be a thing :catskully
 
Yeah, and it looks like it'll remain speculation, for now. If a global flood genuinely occurred, there would be evidence for it everywhere that would be simple for us to spot, given our current methods. All we've ended up getting, is the regions with past human settlements, which would ultimately go on to expand out into the much broader groups of people we have today, each dealing with their own particularly bad, localized floods, which became a deeply rooted memory that ultimately became mythologized as a 'global flood' when, based off everything we've discovered, it was seemingly anything but.(This could change in the future, when our tech and methods improve, but as of now, a global flood happening in humanity's past seems highly unlikely, based on a lot of factors)

As for Troy, there's a lot more evidence for that genuinely being a thing, along with the war, but the exact details we just aren't sure of. Probably never will be, sadly, unless we invent time travel at some point.

What we do know, is that Homer's account, on some level, had to be accurate, as the dude gave the exact location of where Troy was, and the research conducted there has made it clear that battles have absolutely taken place there.

As for scientists, to go on a tangent here, I do love how most atheists who are incredibly vocal try real hard to come off as more intelligent, for following science, but only prove they don't understand it at all, as the sheer amount of times I've seen these idiots talk in absolutes, when in science, due to its ever evolving nature with us still having a LOT of shit left to discover about the universe, any real scientist worth their salt will tell you, there IS no absolutes.

My favorite being whenever any of them say some variation of "With science, we can definitively prove that God or Gods don't exist." and I'm just like "No, you can't? Did you retards miss the most fundamental principle of proper science, in your attempt to lash out at religious people?" And then I remember that most of these niggas don't usually follow proper science that truly seeks to fully understand the world we live in. They instead follow "The Science" most of the time, because it, hilariously and ironically, supports their beliefs. Which they claim to not have.

Stupidity at its finest, from people who want to believe themselves smarter than they are. :heston

Pretty much.
Like yeah, The Great Flood cannot be truly proven but there is some historical significance of either multiple Floods happening that got put into the consciousness of those who did the various Myths or a huge Flood did occur.

As you stated about Troy, I don't need to say anything else. The Bible is in the same boat as it's actually been stated by many historians alot of details that happened in it did happen to some extent(Primarily of Jesus, his Disciples and his Crucification).

And exactly, Scientists explicitly don't believe in absolutes which is why they use hypotheticals or explicitly only come with theories even for shit that they know works and why because shit can change at any time and whole ass theories can be overrode on a dime(and plenty have). This is primarily why most scientists are actually religious because it's actually one of their main reasons why shit can't be explained and it's why Atheists are some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet next to Flat Earthers.
 
Kakashi's speech is about how revenge as a whole is bad and never ends well. Of course, Kakashi contradicted himself or changed his mind for some people with Shikamaru. Lets be real though Kakashi contradicted himself.

Kishi wants Sasuke to be viewed as bad or mentally unstable at this point which is why he has Sasuke fight Naruto which imo is not well written. Sasuke's hatred should be laser focused on Itachi the one that beat the shit out of him and put him in coma. Thinking of Naruto and his growth is forced. This is all for Naruto vs Sasuke build up.

Kishi fails with Kakashi's speech because he doesn't address what Itachi did to Sasuke only that Sasuke's revenge is bad and he shouldn't use Chidori on teammates despite Naruto using Rasengan on Sasuke all the same. Naruto could have easily avoided Sasuke without Rasengan because Sasuke was in the air falling...

Its perfectly normal to want revenge on someone that beat the fuck out of you and put you in a coma. If Sasuke said "Oh well" and moved on along it would not make sense.

Kakashi doesn't address it because he would have to admit Sasuke was justified. Thats not what Kishimoto wants. He wants Sasuke to look bad hence why the discussion is only about revenge and the rooftop fight. Even then only focusing on the things Sasuke did wrong. It doesn't make sense.


After reading through this several times with multiple discussions and topics on it I have realized this.


:dafuq

It really took people this long to realize Kishimoto constantly contradicts himself? Really? The Revenge shit was the first people pointed out in the GameFAQs Naruto Subsection of how he constantly contradicts himself with Kakashi saying "Revenge is Bad" yet Shikamaru explicitly fights for revenge... and WINS! And so does Chouji and Ino and neither come out with any real damage whatsoever. Hell, the only reason why Kishimoto even wrote that was to try and sound profound as Sasuke legit got stronger for the sake of revenge and even stronger than Naruto before the Sage training which makes his point even worse.

Like it's honestly as bad as his "The Nine Tailed Fox wasn't a bad guy at all, he was just mishandled by everyone" when you forget it was trying to kill Naruto at many points and fuck him up mentally just as much in the past(And not forgetting him killing hundreds of people but not a bad guy right?).
 
I personally do believe things like Nephilim described in the Bible or Goliath were real
Goliath is indeed possible.

1 giant in thousands of population we have seen it time and time again.

As for nephilim it is also possible if they started a whole community for it like for example.

All the centers of the NBA players could be considered a Nephilim if they are put thousands of years ago.

Remember the average height is around 5 feet.

:eksip So lets say for some reason war happened and you drafted the strongest of the population you'd end up with a group of tall people in all walks of life. And they'd be considered the toughest warriors.
 
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Yeah, and it looks like it'll remain speculation, for now. If a global flood genuinely occurred, there would be evidence for it everywhere that would be simple for us to spot, given our current methods. All we've ended up getting, is the regions with past human settlements, which would ultimately go on to expand out into the much broader groups of people we have today, each dealing with their own particularly bad, localized floods, which became a deeply rooted memory that ultimately became mythologized as a 'global flood' when, based off everything we've discovered, it was seemingly anything but.(This could change in the future, when our tech and methods improve, but as of now, a global flood happening in humanity's past seems highly unlikely, based on a lot of factors)

As for Troy, there's a lot more evidence for that genuinely being a thing, along with the war, but the exact details we just aren't sure of. Probably never will be, sadly, unless we invent time travel at some point.

What we do know, is that Homer's account, on some level, had to be accurate, as the dude gave the exact location of where Troy was, and the research conducted there has made it clear that battles have absolutely taken place there.

As for scientists, to go on a tangent here, I do love how most atheists who are incredibly vocal try real hard to come off as more intelligent, for following science, but only prove they don't understand it at all, as the sheer amount of times I've seen these idiots talk in absolutes, when in science, due to its ever evolving nature with us still having a LOT of shit left to discover about the universe, any real scientist worth their salt will tell you, there IS no absolutes.

My favorite being whenever any of them say some variation of "With science, we can definitively prove that God or Gods don't exist." and I'm just like "No, you can't? Did you retards miss the most fundamental principle of proper science, in your attempt to lash out at religious people?" And then I remember that most of these niggas don't usually follow proper science that truly seeks to fully understand the world we live in. They instead follow "The Science" most of the time, because it, hilariously and ironically, supports their beliefs. Which they claim to not have.

Stupidity at its finest, from people who want to believe themselves smarter than they are. :heston
Let's be real atheists only a thing because nerds were taken to church on Sundays
 
As for Troy, there's a lot more evidence for that genuinely being a thing, along with the war, but the exact details we just aren't sure of. Probably never will be, sadly, unless we invent time travel at some point.

What we do know, is that Homer's account, on some level, had to be accurate, as the dude gave the exact location of where Troy was, and the research conducted there has made it clear that battles have absolutely taken place there.
Watch and read In Search of the Trojan War. A little dated but its conclusions have only become more accurate with time.

There probably was some kind of Mycenaean expedition to Troy. Unfortunately the details are lost unless someone discovers a yet undiscovered archive. The still-missing Hittite capital at Tarhuntassa is probably the best bet for having such an archive.
 
I'd say Victory Gundam ending > Iron Blooded orphan ending.

Reason.

V-Gundam at least ended with Uso Alive and the Main girl even though the walk through that ending felt like shit.

Iron Blooded Orphan literally has the MC and his group died and nothing actually change, because every important player on the enemy side is still alive.

:pepesip Like shit dude you fought for nothing except to take their word that shit can change, and your whole group is still dead.
 
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