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OBD Convo #41: Everyone sees the same sky

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Xhominid The Apex said:
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After that ass-whooping with those dinosaurs and losing his Rinnegan, he has now been nerfed to tree level :wow
 
Oh that panel explains what boruto creators are trying to do: replace nagato’s role as the Buddha of narutoverse with sasuke. The whole meditating under a tree thing.

Ffs.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
Seriously, this is some absolute embarrassment at the end of the day:
Naruto: Loses Kurama, is barely even considered strong in his own series, is basically stuck in stasis for no reason
Sasuke: Loses his Sharinnegan, gets clowned on multiple times before that, becomes a fucking tree.

Like goddamn, even if Tite Kubo goes this route in the Hell Arc(HIGHLY doubt it), nothing he can do to Ichigo would match this level of suffering...
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I just want the Hell Arc to actually be good, and for them to give us a great devil based villain. Who is actually entertaining.

Not likey, but it is the turn around the series needs.
 
Atem said:
I just want the Hell Arc to actually be good, and for them to give us a great devil based villain. Who is actually entertaining.

Not likey, but it is the turn around the series needs.
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That is the big thing right there as there are ALOT of mysteries about Hell that Kubo has never touched upon(He tried to with the movies... but see how that went).
The biggest example is we've never seen the 5th Great Family Member whose supposed to be overlooking Hell either or how exactly do the Captain Class entities can see through Hell and everything that happens and so on and so forth.

Is there a true Satan? Did the final Noble Family Member become Satan? I'm just hoping it whets the appetite something fierce myself.
 
ok open question:
for the hell arc, what does kubo have to do in order for it to succedd?

taking the example of boruto's decline and probable cut, and dragonballs continuous series like GT and now super, would kubo need to make a villain that has the same pulling power like omega shenron, super android 17, baby vegeta? or just go world building, exploring more different planes like introducing a european soul society, american, south american or just focus on another secret never before spoken plane of existence?

or should he just have crossovers with burn the witch?
 
Xadlin said:
ok open question:
for the hell arc, what does kubo have to do in order for it to succedd?

taking the example of boruto's decline and probable cut, and dragonballs continuous series like GT and now super, would kubo need to make a villain that has the same pulling power like omega shenron, super android 17, baby vegeta? or just go world building, exploring more different planes like introducing a european soul society, american, south american or just focus on another secret never before spoken plane of existence?

or should he just have crossovers with burn the witch?
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Huh, never expected a question like that...
I think the best way to ask this question is to ask a different question altogether and that is:

What do people come to watch Bleach to see exactly?

Because we know the Anime is succeeding pretty well in bringing old and new people back despite it being a LONG ASS Hiatus from the anime's loss and alot of that is simply fixing the biggest issues the Manga has while putting it in a truly presentable manner.

For me, I think the biggest way to get the Hell Arc to succeed is to(obviously) not go the Boruto Route and avoid the powerlevel stupidity that happens in GT and Super and just go back to basics. People want to see Ichigo Kurosaki, his friends, wife and son alongside the Soul Society, old and new recruits alike get shit done while we see a whole new side of a World we've never seen before.
We already got a taste of it with Sinner Szayelapporo and I think the best way to continue that is to primarily make the Sinner versions of the characters be unique while carrying that Hell Theme entirely to it's fullest and how the characters will deal with the actual truth given to them(That all Captain Class beings will be in Hell for all eternity) and if there is a way out of it or not.
 
Xadlin said:
ok open question:
for the hell arc, what does kubo have to do in order for it to succedd?

taking the example of boruto's decline and probable cut, and dragonballs continuous series like GT and now super, would kubo need to make a villain that has the same pulling power like omega shenron, super android 17, baby vegeta? or just go world building, exploring more different planes like introducing a european soul society, american, south american or just focus on another secret never before spoken plane of existence?

or should he just have crossovers with burn the witch?
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  • Actually having a half-way decent main villain for a change would go a long way, as would not giving them broken hax that the heroes have no way of dealing with short of dues ex machina bullshit.
  • Focus on the main cast primariy and don't treat them like side characters while side characters (ie the Captains) are treated like main characters.
  • Take the obvious opportunity to use Hell to bring back dead characters (except Tousen, fuck Tousen) so we can have fights like Hitsugaya vs Yamamoto and such.
Though frankly he probably should just do Burn The Witch style stories for other regions of the world, it probably has a better chance of not turning out shit.
 
Xadlin said:
ok open question:
for the hell arc, what does kubo have to do in order for it to succedd?

taking the example of boruto's decline and probable cut, and dragonballs continuous series like GT and now super, would kubo need to make a villain that has the same pulling power like omega shenron, super android 17, baby vegeta? or just go world building, exploring more different planes like introducing a european soul society, american, south american or just focus on another secret never before spoken plane of existence?

or should he just have crossovers with burn the witch?
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Asked the AI your question. heres what it had to say
To ensure the success of the "Hell Arc" in Tite Kubo's series, it's important to consider several aspects:

1. **Unique and Compelling Villains:** The success of Dragon Ball's GT and Super series can be partially attributed to their memorable villains like Omega Shenron, Super Android 17, and Baby Vegeta. Kubo could similarly create a villain (or villains) with unique abilities and motivations that resonate with the audience. This doesn't necessarily mean replicating the scale or style of Dragon Ball's antagonists, but rather developing a villain that fits well within the established world and themes of his series.

2. **World Building and Exploration:** Expanding the universe by introducing new planes of existence or exploring different cultural versions of the Soul Society could add depth and intrigue. This approach allows for new settings, lore, and characters, enriching the universe and keeping the narrative fresh. Kubo could introduce European, American, or South American versions of the Soul Society, or even entirely new realms, which could provide a canvas for new stories and character development.

3. **Character Development and Story Continuity:** It's crucial for Kubo to maintain consistent character development and a coherent storyline. Fans appreciate depth and growth in characters they've followed for years. Introducing new characters or realms should serve to enhance the existing narrative, not detract from it.

4. **Tie-ins with Other Works like "Burn the Witch":** Crossovers with Kubo's other works, like "Burn the Witch," could be a strategic move. It can attract fans from both series and offers opportunities for creative storytelling. However, such crossovers should be carefully crafted to ensure they feel natural and add value to both narratives.

5. **Balancing Nostalgia and Innovation:** While it's important to honor the elements that made the original series beloved, relying solely on nostalgia can be limiting. Kubo should aim to innovate and introduce new concepts and characters that can stand on their own.

6. **Fan Engagement and Feedback:** Understanding and occasionally integrating fan feedback can be beneficial. This doesn't mean compromising the artistic vision, but rather being aware of what resonates with the audience.

7. **Marketing and Promotion:** Effective marketing strategies, including leveraging social media and collaborations with other popular media, can greatly enhance visibility and interest in the series.

In conclusion, Kubo's strategy should ideally be a blend of creating compelling new villains, expanding the universe through thoughtful world-building, maintaining strong character development and story continuity, and potentially integrating other works like "Burn the Witch." Balancing nostalgia with innovation and engaging with the fanbase are also key components for the success of the "Hell Arc."
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Essentially
"Kubo dont be a shitter"
:hestonpls
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
We really need Brock to come in here, for real, and suplex MJF hard enough for him to come back to his senses, because holy hell, this nigga just continues to fall, in terms of quality and testo. :wow
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I'm even looking through the AEW Subsections of various wrestling sites or those that have wrestling subsections... and even they are like "This makes MJF look so fucking bad" and I'm like even as a Face this is way too goddamned much.

Like is this really supposed to be a Wrestler? Someone we are supposed to see as Larger Than Life? Bitching about his knee like his family died? GTFO with this garbage my dude. Remember that WWE(Well more Cody himself did) had Cody Rhodes wrestle with a torn pec and that dude didn't bitch, complain or whine outside of it being targeted.
Hell, I remember that stupid ass flaming table spot he did that grilled his back and that nigga didn't complain once about it outside of trying to please the AEW audience. What the fuck happened to AEW?!

*Looks at that stupid shit with the Death Match*
Oh nevermind...
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
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...These IWC fans are going to be the reason AEW fails if not for the stupid ass wrestlers, for fucking real.
No one is going to want to see this shit because this isn't even what ECW did, this is some XPW shit.
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I'd kinda understand going to these absurd lengths, to a degree, if this was the final match for a very long and entertaining feud that had brought asses to the seats and had people frothing at the mouth, giddy for how it's going to end... kinda.

I know for a fact that these two weren't involved in anything even remotely close to that, given this is AEW, so they just put themselves through all this for basically nothing other than cheap pops and fifteen minutes of fame. Disgraceful.:wow
 
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