No because Awakenings aren't moves. They are forms.
Ashura is a move and not a form.
It's a G4. See Doflamingo and Katakuri.
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Ashura is a move and not a form.
It's a G4. See Doflamingo and Katakuri.
Pretty sure Zoro's asura has more of a "form" than law or kidds awakening, by definition anyways.
Awakenings are weird because they’re essentially just a capacity to affect the outside to become what they control
and Ashura is supposed to be a Haki illusion, right?
i don’t think either seem to be “forms”
Zoans becoming animals and hybrids are a form. Big Mom eating her life span to become bigger is a form. Luffy using Gears to change his body is a form.
i’m not trying to be part of the conversation here, just trying to add on that little part
and Ashura is supposed to be a Haki illusion, right?
i don’t think either seem to be “forms”
Zoans becoming animals and hybrids are a form. Big Mom eating her life span to become bigger is a form. Luffy using Gears to change his body is a form.
i’m not trying to be part of the conversation here, just trying to add on that little part
The stamina toll is also a weird aspect of Awakening. Like how much stamina did Katakuri have to be able to spam it for so long against Luffy when Law and Kidd are getting heavily winded after just one usage and they went on about how it was a last resort
Katakuri has unnatural stamina.The stamina toll is also a weird aspect of Awakening. Like how much stamina did Katakuri have to be able to spam it for so long against Luffy when Law and Kidd are getting heavily winded after just one usage and they went on about how it was a last resort
He will be training for the next 2000 chapters, after all.
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Katakuri is like 48 or somethingThe stamina toll is also a weird aspect of Awakening. Like how much stamina did Katakuri have to be able to spam it for so long against Luffy when Law and Kidd are getting heavily winded after just one usage and they went on about how it was a last resort
dude has had YEARS to master it
plus he’s got advanced Haki, better than Luffy’s at the time.
so maybe that is the Key.
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Who cares if they're not Luffy, Yamato or Magellan they're trash tier 
Oars>>>>
Buggy>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Here is what an updated tier list is going to look like: none of the fighters are in order.
S+
Prime 5
S
Yonkou
Admirals
Dragon/Mihawk
Garp/Sengoku/Rayleigh
S
Yamato
Kidd/Law
Luffy
Yami Teach
Starving Mom
A+
Zoro (Higher with Ashura and Haoshoku)
Marco (Regen)
King
Katakuri
Ifrit Sanji
Queen
A
Smoothie
Sulong Dukes
Etc. Very rough draft. And I must confess. I have the hardest time Everytime I do these. Placing Teach and Magellan anywhere on this list. Everytime. Teach especially.
How strong do you think Yami Teach is? @Great Potato and @xenos5
S+
Prime 5
S
Yonkou
Admirals
Dragon/Mihawk
Garp/Sengoku/Rayleigh
S
Yamato
Kidd/Law
Luffy
Yami Teach
Starving Mom
A+
Zoro (Higher with Ashura and Haoshoku)
Marco (Regen)
King
Katakuri
Ifrit Sanji
Queen
A
Smoothie
Sulong Dukes
Etc. Very rough draft. And I must confess. I have the hardest time Everytime I do these. Placing Teach and Magellan anywhere on this list. Everytime. Teach especially.
How strong do you think Yami Teach is? @Great Potato and @xenos5
I think Yami Teach is kinda matchup dependent. For those who rely on their DFs heavily (especially if they have no range-game or way to anchor themselves from getting sucked in) he’s great. Jozu might be one of his best matchups considering all Jozu can do range-wise is throw big landmasses, he can only anchor himself by jamming his hands into the ground immediately next to him which can just be pulled up with him, and once his Diamond DF is negated his durability should plummet.
But for those who’ve got crazy base stats or crazy haki even without their DF, him trying to draw them in puts him at too much risk of receiving a counter attack enhanced by his suction. Especially if the attack has a lethal quality. Yami BB does not want to take Mochi Thrust to the face for example.
bruh
I got a homie trying to tell me that DOFLAMINGO would wash Jack
what the fuck
I got a homie trying to tell me that DOFLAMINGO would wash Jack
what the fuck
he's a cool guy and is like an OP superfan but we always get into powerscaling discussions and he got the strangest opinionsGotta get new homies bro.
Doflamingo would wash......Jack's slippers.
He thinks all the All Stars are incredibly weak and that for some reason Katakuri is on the same level as Marco
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