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One Piece Tier/Feat/Canon/Toei Discussion Thread Part 3: Road to star level

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Also Oars vivre card apparently hints he created Wano
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And this theory goes into incredibly depth as to why an ancient giant must have put wano together


However my only critique is the theory ignores the fact that it has to be Oars, not any other Ancient Giant
-Oars started the legend of the continent puller, afaik it's not a species wide title, Oars Jr isn't called a continent puller for example
-Oars' loin cloth has the same symbol found in Im's hat room
-the vivre card suggests he created Wano

And it makes sense in context of Zunesha. Zunesha is only a criminal because they're an ally of Joy Boy, Oars could be seen as a criminal and Wano as a land of ruffians because they are the ancient kingdom in opposition of the world government


Oars has great lore :wow


Interestingly Oars was born right around when the gum gum disappeared

And a friend pointed out the fact he froze to death is oddly similar to Im keeping the straw hat frozen
 
I was hesitant at first to do "myth" characters (Prime Oars, Nika, Joyboy, Poseidon, Ryuuma) but after Luffy's reveal. We know for a fact Nika was real in the OP verse at one time.

So hey man, Primes Oars could have a hypothetical calc.
 
B Rabbit said:
I was hesitant at first to do "myth" characters (Prime Oars, Nika, Joyboy, Poseidon, Ryuuma) but after Luffy's reveal. We know for a fact Nika was real in the OP verse at one time.

So hey man, Primes Oars could have a hypothetical calc.
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Thinking about it I'm not 100% sure if we know Nika and the other mythical fruits are real yet
By Zunesha confirming Joy Boy returned, it means we know Joy Boy had the awakened Nika fruit, but we don't necessarily know Nika existed yet

The only confirmation we have of anything is the Dragon Ryuuma slayed but it doesn't look anything like Kaido so I'm not sure if it's enough to say all Mythical zoans are based on real things yet

Although I kinda hope Joy Boy had a different fruit or WAS Nika better because it means "being Joy Boy" is a title not restricted to fruits
 
OtherGalaxy said:
Thinking about it I'm not 100% sure if we know Nika and the other mythical fruits are real yet
By Zunesha confirming Joy Boy returned, it means we know Joy Boy had the awakened Nika fruit, but we don't necessarily know Nika existed yet

The only confirmation we have of anything is the Dragon Ryuuma slayed but it doesn't look anything like Kaido so I'm not sure if it's enough to say all Mythical zoans are based on real things yet

Although I kinda hope Joy Boy had a different fruit or WAS Nika better because it means "being Joy Boy" is a title not restricted to fruits
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As far as it goes for Prime Oars, he's real (sine moria had his body) and nothing contradicts him pulling continents. There's enough pieces to give him a calc, but you're right, every other myth we can't do that for.
 
Syla said:
Got me thinking what knowledge Vegapunk is hiding, and if he can make those manifistations real. He probably can since he replicated Kaido's fruit. There's a lot of directions for the true nature of DFs.
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Plus he replicated Kizaru's fruit, so he should be able to copy anything theoretically. I wonder why he consider Kaido's copy a failure though, was he wrong or is there something about Momo's we don't know about?
 
OtherGalaxy said:
Plus he replicated Kizaru's fruit, so he should be able to copy anything theoretically. I wonder why he consider Kaido's copy a failure though, was he wrong or is there something about Momo's we don't know about?
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There's a lot of theories that say that he deemed it a failure so the WG didn't get their hands on it. Although it's yet to be seen what defuncts momo is hiding.
Perhaps a full on DF was too much and he thought mass producing Lasers or this new WG weapon was more than enough for him.

Not sure yet. There's also the fact that Kaido knows Joyboy and he said luffy couldn't become him. Is making smile fruits and people laughing all the time got to do with Luffy's fruit since Luffy can't stop laughing either. Questions Questions.
 
"B-but why does Luffy's fruit give rubber properpties? This a retcon"

No. It's so he could put on the widest, biggest smile ever and make others do the same. Making people happy is the whole point.
 
Just read the official translation. It's heavily implied there that the WG elder with the scar on his eye might have a SUPER advanced form of FS.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it?
 
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