Rank Golden Amazo (DCAU) Among the Marvel and DC Cosmics/Abstracts

[Edward Nygma]

I could keep making hit-or-miss threads, or I could just ask the real question.

DCAU Upgrades: Justice League Infinity

Might was well start with the elephant in the room. Yes. Amazo took himself from having universal hype to being a confirmed multiversal threat over a handful of panels in a 7-issue DCAU comic. Before we get to Amazo himself, we have to look at "where" (loose use of the term) Amazo spends most...

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[OtherGalaxy]

the real question is where do they rank in transformers

Jakk Lokk suggested around Dormammu or Shuma Gorath tier for Marvel before.

Have no clue about DC maybe COIE Anti Monitor or someone similar in strength to that

 

[Edward Nygma]

the real question is where do they rank in transformers

Fuck it.

Hit me with that too.

I can see you right now, holding back the torrent of Galvitron lore:

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Fuck it.

Hit me with that too.

I can see you right now, holding back the torrent of Galvitron lore:

that one's actually pretty simple he's either at or above the Alternity Transformers (whether they truly hit the + in multiversal+ is very debatable) but below the 13 Original Transformers, Primus, Unicron etc

transformers in the cosmic stage just kinda has a few big jumps from tier to tier with nothing in between

 

[Edward Nygma]

that one's actually pretty simple

Simple, yeah...

Alternity Transformers

13 Original Transformers, Primus, Unicron

Probably is simple to anyone who speaks whatever language this is.

 

[Edward Nygma]

@OtherGalaxy

Is the Transformers multiverse infinite like the DC and Marvel ones?

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Simple, yeah...



Probably is simple to anyone who speaks whatever language this is.

luckily me and CD have created the literal only reliable TF feat thread online
https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/

tl;dr
Alternity=higher dimensional evolved transformers that are bigger than universes, there's an iffy statement about them affecting every workd, and Megatron in this form shook tons of universes just in his death throes

13= first transformers, cosmic quantum clusterfuck higher dimensional beings. By obd standards they are megaversal to megaverse+ from Vector being able to stop universal clusters from being destroyed and Solus shattering the star saber. Cosmology wise transformers is a (very) small omniverse by obd terms, and the star saber can destroy it so their leader Prima is on another level

Unicron and Primus predate the cosmos and are actually operating in weakened forms for 99% of the stories... where they can still affect the entire multiverse regardless. True/Astral Unicron would be the main top tier as he's much stronger than any of his physical forms that have threatened the multiverse and the overpowered Primus in their first fight, but Primus ultimately crippled him which is why everyone isn't dead now.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

@OtherGalaxy

Is the Transformers multiverse infinite like the DC and Marvel ones?

it is, and it technically gets into higher infinities like they do but most people aren't aware of this because it's actually mentioned only a handful of times. the overall cosmology size is smaller than either however

 

[Edward Nygma]

luckily me and CD have created the literal only reliable TF feat thread online
https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/

tl;dr
Alternity=higher dimensional evolved transformers that are bigger than universes, there's an iffy statement about them affecting every workd, and Megatron in this form shook tons of universes just in his death throes

13= first transformers, cosmic quantum clusterfuck higher dimensional beings. By obd standards they are megaversal to megaverse+ from Vector being able to stop universal clusters from being destroyed and Solus shattering the star saber. Cosmology wise transformers is a (very) small omniverse by obd terms, and the star saber can destroy it so their leader Prima is on another level

Unicron and Primus predate the cosmos and are actually operating in weakened forms for 99% of the stories... where they can still affect the entire multiverse regardless. True/Astral Unicron would be the main top tier as he's much stronger than any of his physical forms that have threatened the multiverse and the overpowered Primus in their first fight, but Primus ultimately crippled him which is why everyone isn't dead now.

Me pondering my general indifference to TF:
"I just can't get invested in these non-organic characters for some weird reason. Oh well."

You:
"robots bigger than a universe"

Me:

Anway. Genuinely fascinating as that lore dump was (and it was), you still haven't told me where you think this Amazo fits.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Me pondering my general indifference to TF:
"I just can't get invested in these non-organic characters for some weird reason. Oh well."

You:
"robots bigger than a universe"

Me:

Anway. Genuinely fascinating as that lore dump was (and it was), you still haven't told me where you think this Amazo fits.

I said in my first post
he's either right around or just above the Alternity guys, but below any of the 13
I dont think there's a character in TF exactly at his level unless you go with high end interpretations of the Alternity

and yeah universes in TF are infinite in size, and Alternity guys are so big their bodies stretch through multiple ones. So you end up with a version of fucking Bumblebee that's bigger than the STTGL

Unicron's iterations can also be bigger than universes

 

[Edward Nygma]

I said in my first post
he's either right around or just above the Alternity guys, but below any of the 13

My B. Totally thought that was part of the Galvitron lore I memed about.

Reading comp at an all time low. RIP

 

[OtherGalaxy]

bizarrely the strongest forms of megatron eclipse any Galvatron in strength

Megatherion (Alternity Megatron) is multiversal to multi+ and Golden Megatron is low multiversal, while Master Galvatron peaks at galaxy level based on comic tie in scaling

not aware of any Galvatrons stronger than that

 

[Derpmaster9000]

bizarrely the strongest forms of megatron eclipse any Galvatron in strength

Megatherion (Alternity Megatron) is multiversal to multi+ and Golden Megatron is low multiversal, while Master Galvatron peaks at galaxy level based on comic tie in scaling

not aware of any Galvatrons stronger than that

>Golden Megatron
Off-topic, but I'm starting to see more and more why Frieza vs Megatron became a popular MU.

 

[Edward Nygma]

Something for you to ponder while I slumber.

How do we think Amazo fares against standard Dark Phenix Jean or Darkest Knight?

 

[GregSteve]

Anythread with OG ever" here's how they stack up to big robots cars and planes and shit"

 

[OtherGalaxy]

it's my job to derail everything into transformers because no-one else will

 

[Masterblack06]

Based Amazo carrying the DCAU on his back with sheer power