Town level doesn't come from big bang impact it comes of the bombardier beetle chimera ant. Take a look at Chaos's HxH calcs.
Town level doesn't come from big bang impact it comes of the bombardier beetle chimera ant. Take a look at Chaos's HxH calcs.Big Bang Impact is not even that big. Calling big bang impact as a town level attacks sounds way too much. A building level seems okay.
Overlord Volume 5 Chapter 2
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Even a Gigant Basilisk can destroy a town alone.
Bombardier beetle did not even destroy that much area. If destroying few trees is enough to make someone a town level threat, then every 3rd tier mage is now a town level threat. And they are just level 21.Town level doesn't come from big bang impact it comes of the bombardier beetle chimera ant. Take a look at Chaos's HxH calcs.
And this blog itself says that it is just for fun. ChaosTheory saud that below.Hunter X Hunter Feats - Chimera Ant Collection
Ant Fortress = 74 pixels Pitou's En = 1391 pixels Ant Fortress/Pitou's End = 0.0532 Pitou's En = 2,000 meters Ant Fortress = 106.4 meters Ant Fortress = 981 pixels Hole Diameter = 180 pixels Hole Diameter/Ant Fortress = 0.183 Hole Diameter...onelastforum.com
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Canary = 282 pixels Pillar Height = 450 pixels Pillar Width = 143 pixels Pillar Height/Canary = 1.596 Pillar Width/Canary = 0.507 Canary = 1.64 meters (official height) Pillar Height = 2.617 meters Pillar Width = 0.831 meters Gon = 524...onelastforum.com
everything is listed in the blogs
do you have an argument that isn't eyeballing?
Sorry, I was not as modern as you to understand that. I am new to English culture.This entire hobby is for fun, that's why the disclaimer is there
if you can't understand that, there's no point talking to you, bye
This is a weak spell that Shalltear would barely be injured by
That is a couple of megatons right there, and she can tank several dozens of far more powerful hits.
Terms of speed, she scales massively above supersonic bullet timers so much so they are slow as snails to her.
TBF vaporization isn't much of a stretch, in the original novels it's described as wiping everything away in a flash of light, and the anime seems to show it just...evaporating everything. Im not 100% sold on it myself but I can't really think of anything to counter off the top of my head either.1. not a couple megatons, actually a couple kilotons, your underestimating how powerful a megaton is, only way you'd get a megaton is if you assume its vaporization than fragmentation.
Which is what I'm doing.1. not a couple megatons, actually a couple kilotons, your underestimating how powerful a megaton is, only way you'd get a megaton is if you assume its vaporization than fragmentation.
...I've seen lots of arguments around hunterxhunter, and a low end being three digit megatons is definitely ridiculous. Don't have the time as of now, but gonna give the calcs a closer look later.Also, Neferpitou scales to pre-rose Meruem. Meruem's body stayed intact even after getting hit with the rose bomb. calc here: https://onelastforum.com/ubs/hunter-x-hunter-feats-neteros-hyakushiki-kannon-and-rose-bomb.36/
The fact low levels are supersonic bullet timers and are considered ants by her alone disproves this.2. Nothing in Overlord proves that Shalltear scales "massively" above supersonic bullet timers.
It could be vaporization, but the tornado and giant geyser of flame could also be expelled materials, unless there separate spells.TBF vaporization isn't much of a stretch, in the original novels it's described as wiping everything away in a flash of light, and the anime seems to show it just...evaporating everything. Im not 100% sold on it myself but I can't really think of anything to counter off the top of my head either.
Separate spells, the tornado should be Sharknado as its the spell ainz cast immediately after nuclear blast, and the fire spell is likely some take on one of the hell fire spells wrath used. To be technical ainz should have turned invisible after sharknado but the movie kinda skips that part of the fight.It could be vaporization, but the tornado and giant geyser of flame could also be expelled materials, unless there separate spells.
I don't trust spacebattles calcs.Which is what I'm doing.
A higher quality clip makes it clearer it is vaporization
(http://imgur.com/a/fBmW9Sz) Calc done here puts the lowball at 4.12 megatons.
Overlord spells can have restricted aoe's that force them to be within certain limits and not go a centimetre beyond that
...I've seen lots of arguments around hunterxhunter, and a low end being three digit megatons is definitely ridiculous. Don't have the time as of now, but gonna give the calcs a closer look later.
Three digt megatons is in the "create mushroom clouds that reach beyond orbit, heat that can cook countries and create nuclear winters kinda scale. If hunterxhunter doesn't have an implicit or explicit explanation as to why such attacks don't have the associated effect, it's wack.
The fact low levels are supersonic bullet timers and are considered ants by her alone disproves this.
Gonna grab a post of mine from another forum
The very last spoiler tag here contain a good number
Apparently the calcs aren't bad, atleast according to...Someone else on this site when I asked about it. Vaporization does feel questionable but its hard to argue what else it could be, the thing just...deletes everything and the follow up tornado/fire seem to be entirely seperate spell effects.I don't trust spacebattles calcs.
And restricted aoe isn't a good argument. That argument only works if theres something to scale the feat off but there isn't. Arguing that an attack is multiple times stronger than what is actually shown requires a lot of proof. That Overlord doesnt have.
And 4 megatons is still well below what Pitou can survive.
Apparently the calcs aren't bad, atleast according to...Someone else on this site when I asked about it. Vaporization does feel questionable but its hard to argue what else it could be, the thing just...deletes everything and the follow up tornado/fire seem to be entirely seperate spell effects.
It was darth zion actually,1. I'm kick everyone's asses who basically brought this topic back up from the dead for the second freaking time.
2. If it's OG who did it, don't act like he's the final word to anything, I've seen him accept shit for less because "it's not that different than Transformers" but no one ever does a true deep dive on their own until the inevitable Deception Thread happens
3. Considering how Overlord as a world works, I can understand Cryso's take in that we shouldn't believe it's vaporization on it's own without any genuine proof that's the case.
It was darth zion actually
I mean Im not sure what else it could reasonably be looking at it? Everything vanishes in a flash of light, theres no debris, it's not even really an explosion, it just...deletes everything in the area.
The description in the novels is not much clearer, this is generally what you get from the novels:
What had truly moved Neia’s heart was the ball of white light that she had seen twice. It was power which consumed everything and made it disappear without a trace.
If we accept that nothing in overlord follows physics and thus cant be calced. It should never be discussed for vs debates, which you Know fair but we kinda have to hand wave/try and calculate based on real physics or the series just can't be talked about.Even worse
Like if it was atleast Qinglong, Flowering Knight or someone who has some actual calculation skills on it, I can believe it.
Again blame the author for writing in that the World itself basically obeys it's own physics at random...
I understand that calc. If you think it's wrong, you can point out the partI don't trust spacebattles calcs.
A 50 megaton bomb would make a around 83km² fireball. Around the size of ManhattanYour explanation is in the manga panels or the anime.
In both mediums the explosion destroyed the entire underground structure that Meruem and Netero fought in, which seemingly went on for kilometers.
You also see the fireball of the explosion start at already hundreds of meters in size before it begins to expand. And it destroys the multiple plateaus around it.
When your fireball is that towering your gonna get extreme numbers for it.
How is restricted Aoe not a good argument. I look at the amount of stone vaporized, I calculate the energy needed to vaporize that amount of stone, I translate that number to tons of tnt and get megatons. Please point out the issue I haveAnd restricted aoe isn't a good argument. That argument only works if theres something to scale the feat off but there isn't. Arguing that an attack is multiple times stronger than what is actually shown requires a lot of proof. That Overlord doesnt have.
I can point how the same supersonic characters to Shalltear's vision were as slow as snails, or how one who's swings scale to supersonic speeds has his sword casually caught by Shalltear's hand moving from hip to neck before the sword could cross a couple of cm.First of all your hyperlink doesn't work.
Second, the post you shared is basically what I said?
There all statements of characters making shockwaves when they move. Only two feats are actually reacting to bullets. The death knight who got overwhelmed and killed and Albedo.
I don't see why Entoma's bullet bugs are as fast as actual bullets.
And the rest seems to be calc stacking, which is against obd rules.
That means that Shalltear is only faster than base supersonic characters. By how much we don't know.
And even if you have a fear of a character blocking bullets that's still not comparable to cheetus feat.
As the scans in @ChaosTheory123's calcs show Cheetu dodged the bullets while they were inches away from his face.
That's a far cry beyond simply reacting to them from a distance.
Where's that said?Again blame the author for writing in that the World itself basically obeys it's own physics at random...
When something punches with hundreds of times more force than they weigh, it's not following physics. Apply that as a rule and you kill most debatesIf we accept that nothing in overlord follows physics and thus cant be calced
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