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Shin Megami Tensei vs toaru

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I'm pretty sure he's saying each of those rubber bands themselves create infinite parallel worlds, hence at least megaversal.

That's what I'm assuming he's getting at.
Except from what I’m reading, the infinite parallel worlds are the multiverse
 

Yeah I've seen this before and played Nocturne.

There's a Kagatsuchi (avatar) for each Vortex World, and there's an infinite amount of Vortex Worlds/Kagatsuchi's. Is that not just considered multi+?
 
I still don't get where the idea that Virtual-On Othi pl is canon. I checked Baka-tsuki's version of the crossover and it contains nothing about Kamachi calling others fools for not believing that the powerlevels are canon.

Here's baka-tsuki's version by Js06



Here's the version that Astaro got from Fiamma


All baka-tsuki's version talks about is Kamachi being told to add more toaru stuff into the story. It has nothing about Kamachi saying that its an official setting.

@fiamma would you mind posting the raw version of the afterword if you have it? Or at least sending me to somewhere I could find it?
 
I have no say in the matter, but read the OP. It doesn't matter if it is or not.

"Allows use of non-canon feats"
 
Isn't an infinite number of infinite multiverses a megaversal?
Yes.

Except all I see in that quote you posted (and the ones I’ve posted for Tangram) is an infinite multiverse
 
Literally was just asking a question.

1. You should know this considering people have told you this countless times including myself.
2. I also brought in it as how it's usually an issue for localizers not getting the correct essence for a statement.


Demi-Fiend in what is virtually the canon route literally destroys Kagutsuchi so badly, he's irreversibly dead in all of the billions of Universes in the Amala Space. This is the same for the Nahobino, Aleph, Flynn and others due to them killing the fragments of YHVH who are also just that strong and ludicrous themselves.

That's why they have the Megaversal+ standing.

EDIT: This makes it even more clear and obvious

 
"billions of universes"

"Megaversal+"

This is literally what I was just talking about.
 
The Nahobino is even stronger considering he managed to beat a Lucifer that killed and absorbed the power of God and ascended to a higher realm of power beyond the level that God was at.


That is true but I was too lazy to bring it up since I wanted to explain why the protagonists are Megaversal


But yes, Nahobino is like the strongest Protagonist in the franchise... outside of the Game Gear Port of the first Last Bible where the protagonist literally fights the Great Will itself and gets it to stand down though he dies doing so

That's not getting into the THE Last Bible Series where a different protagonist in a SMT game literally became The Creator and was put down by the Protagonists in that game
 
The Nahobino is even stronger considering he managed to beat a Lucifer that killed and absorbed the power of God and ascended to a higher realm of power beyond the level that God was at.

Not to mention Stephen, who alone fought the five messiahs
 
Yes.

Except all I see in that quote you posted (and the ones I’ve posted for Tangram) is an infinite multiverse
each of YHVH's heads can sustain and destroy a Megaverses, Kagutsuchi is only a tiny fraction of him
 
each of YHVH's heads can sustain and destroy a Megaverses, Kagutsuchi is only a tiny fraction of him
Scan?

And no, Kagatsuchi isn't a fraction of YHVH, they're both fractions of the Great Will.

YHVH = / = the Great Will (which is likely a separate being from the Great Reason, idk, modern Atlus writing is a meme).
 

Game Gear port of The First Last Bible game has you straight up defeat/kill The Great Will itself and the 4 conceptual beings that make up Reality itself.


The final villain is basically a dude from a whole ass different series basically put on the same perch the Nahobino is in... and fucking killed him and took his place

Othinus gets fucked up.
 
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