VS Battle The Lich (Adventure Time) vs Ruin (Mistborn)

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Prompt 1: The Shard Ruin is traveling throughout the cosmos and encounters the planet Ooo. He wants to do his MO, hastening worlds towards their oblivion. However, he notices that Ooo is home to many magical creatures, magicians, and even a few adventurers. But most notable of all, he senses an entity that's somewhat like him. He notices an ancient evil hellbent on bringing about the extinction of all life - The Lich. This piques Ruin's interest, and he decides to make his presence known. Ruin and the Lich fight each other. Who wins?
  • Round 1: Ruin is free from the Well of Ascension, but did not manage to recover his atium "body."
  • Round 2: Ruin is at full power.

Prompt 2: Ruin still notices the Lich, and makes his presence known to him. However, they don't decide to fight each other. They want to enjoy this unique opportunity, instead of flinging around the planet for instance. Instead, this prompt will be a chess game to see who will be the first to end all life or destroy the planet. It will be a battle of manipulation, and the chess pieces will be the various inhabitants of Ooo.



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Atem

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Depends on which version of The Lich we are talking about here.

There are some things common between them all: The Lich knows everything about the versions of himself in parallel worlds, and has some kind of connection to his alternate selves. He cannot draw power from them though, and some of them rebel against each other as seen with Sweet P who chose to change under the influence of Citadel Guardian blood. Their commands work similarly to any words of power from Dungeons & Dragons. They can raise and control the dead, and are responsible for the destruction of the world a thousand years ago as the Mushroom Bomb, which is one of their aspects. Magic also exists because of it, and he is largely responsible for it. Along with mutations in general. The other one was as the Catalyst Comet. Which was the asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs.

Only two things have actually been able to kill The Lich, and that is the Maid, and Golb itself. Both of which are multiversal in scale, and warp reality in a not insignificant way. The Lich can even influence and effect abstract concepts like Life and Death, and took possession of their son as a host. The most dangerous thing about him is how hard he is to kill, and the fact that being an abstract concept doesn't protect anyone from being possessed by him.

The Lich himself is likely a primordial predating the universe, is intimately familiar with the ancients, including Orgalorg, and is consistently treated as a threat even Finn can't handle normally. The same Finn who can do this to other ancients like Orgalorg.

 
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Atem said:
Depends on which version of The Lich we are talking about here.

There are some things common between them all: The Lich knows everything about the versions of himself in parallel worlds, and has some kind of connection to his alternate selves. He cannot draw power from them though, and some of them rebel against each other as seen with Sweet P who chose to change under the influence of Citadel Guardian blood. Their commands work similarly to any words of power from Dungeons & Dragons. They can raise and control the dead, and are responsible for the destruction of the world a thousand years ago as the Mushroom Bomb, which is one of their aspects. Magic also exists because of it, and he is largely responsible for it. Along with mutations in general. The other one was as the Catalyst Comet. Which was the asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs.

Only two things have actually been able to kill The Lich, and that is the Maid, and Golb itself. Both of which are multiversal in scale, and warp reality in a not insignificant way. The Lich can even influence and effect abstract concepts like Life and Death, and took possession of their son as a host. The most dangerous thing about him is how hard he is to kill, and the fact that being an abstract concept doesn't protect anyone from being possessed by him.

The Lich himself is likely a primordial predating the universe, is intimately familiar with the ancients, including Orgalorg, and is consistently treated as a threat even Finn can't handle normally. The same Finn who can do this to other ancients like Orgalorg.

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He also at least should scale to the criminal that cut a planet that get imprisoned in the Citadel
 
Starkun The Metallic

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Atem said:
There are some things common between them all: The Lich knows everything about the versions of himself in parallel worlds, and has some kind of connection to his alternate selves. He cannot draw power from them though, and some of them rebel against each other as seen with Sweet P who chose to change under the influence of Citadel Guardian blood. Their commands work similarly to any words of power from Dungeons & Dragons. They can raise and control the dead, and are responsible for the destruction of the world a thousand years ago as the Mushroom Bomb, which is one of their aspects. Magic also exists because of it, and he is largely responsible for it. Along with mutations in general. The other one was as the Catalyst Comet. Which was the asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs.
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Magic already existed long before the Mushroom Bomb. The bomb revived magic and spread it all over the place. But yeah, reviving magic and creating mutations is a fucking scary aspect of his existence.
Atem said:
Only two things have actually been able to kill The Lich, and that is the Maid, and Golb itself. Both of which are multiversal in scale, and warp reality in a not insignificant way. The Lich can even influence and effect abstract concepts like Life and Death, and took possession of their son as a host. The most dangerous thing about him is how hard he is to kill, and the fact that being an abstract concept doesn't protect anyone from being possessed by him.
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What is the Maid and when was it used? I'm not familiar with the show's later seasons.
Atem said:
The Lich himself is likely a primordial predating the universe, is intimately familiar with the ancients, including Orgalorg, and is consistently treated as a threat even Finn can't handle normally. The same Finn who can do this to other ancients like Orgalorg.
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The Lich's most dangerous aspects are definitely his knowledge of the universe and unkillable nature. But at the same time, he's a jobber. He was killed by Season 2 Finn with a sweater. Everytime he does an iconic speech, he's embarrassed the moment it's over. It's also very hard to think about AP because Adventure Time focuses on gags and philosophy over its magic and powerscaling.
 
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Starkun The Metallic said:
Magic already existed long before the Mushroom Bomb. The bomb revived magic and spread it all over the place. But yeah, reviving magic and creating mutations is a fucking scary aspect of his existence.
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Barely, and almost entirely the result of Catalyst Comets like him. The planet getting hit by them happens routinely, and even Finn is a Catalyst Comet.
Starkun The Metallic said:
What is the Maid and when was it used? I'm not familiar with the show's later seasons.
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Cosmic super weapon used against Class A multiversal threats. Erases the target from existence.
Starkun The Metallic said:
The Lich's most dangerous aspects are definitely his knowledge of the universe and unkillable nature. But at the same time, he's a jobber. He was killed by Season 2 Finn with a sweater. Everytime he does an iconic speech, he's embarrassed the moment it's over. It's also very hard to think about AP because Adventure Time focuses on gags and philosophy over its magic and powerscaling.
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Finn is also a Catalyst Comet, and it's the whole reason he does well against ancients. He has got an excuse. Though The Lich is still exceptionally powerful among ancients. Second only to Golb, and one of Golb's scholars. Who is the absolute god tier of their multiverse.

Though Prismo is also higher than The Lich, and so are any wish masters. They are beneath Golb on the other hand. Who is mostly immune to wishes. Except for the crown, and even then only highly specific wishes made using the crown work. Provided that they don't attempt to destroy Golb, but that's likely due to how mindless it is. It only acts in self-preservation due to instinct.
 
Starkun The Metallic

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Atem said:
Barely, and almost entirely the result of Catalyst Comets like him. The planet getting hit by them happens routinely, and even Finn is a Catalyst Comet.
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The Ice King’s Crown, magic and wizards, ancient lava dogs, and the Elementals existed during the Cretaceous Period. We know the Mushroom Bomb was some kind of combination of science and magic, and that the Enchiridion existed by the modern day.
So not as much magic as what the Mushroom Bomb facilitated, but it was always there. You’re mostly right but the Bomb didn’t create magic.


Atem said:
Finn is also a Catalyst Comet, and it's the whole reason he does well against ancients. He has got an excuse. Though The Lich is still exceptionally powerful among ancients. Second only to Golb, and one of Golb's scholars. Who is the absolute god tier of their multiverse.

Though Prismo is also higher than The Lich, and so are any wish masters. They are beneath Golb on the other hand. Who is mostly immune to wishes. Except for the crown, and even then only highly specific wishes made using the crown work. Provided that they don't attempt to destroy Golb, but that's likely due to how mindless it is. It only acts in self-preservation due to instinct.
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I forgot Finn was a Catalyst Comet. Well alright then. I still think the Lich is a jobber, but this fact makes his defeats sting less. Also, is it possible that the Lich versions Finn fights aren’t in their prime? I remember PB saying the Lich was weakened in his debut.
 
Starkun The Metallic

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I think Ruin wins this fight pretty easily. Though he doesn’t kill the Lich because of his immortality. Although, I think he could permanently disable the Lich by manifesting his equivalent of the Citadel Guardian blood.

If anyone needs a summary of Ruin’s abilities I’ll write it down.
 
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