I gotchu homie時間は一本道だ。
過去も現在も未来もつながっている. パラレルワールドとは、 多くの世界があるの ではない. 時間というゴムヒモを、パチンコ台のように 無数の釘を打った台の.「どこの釘』に引っかけていくか、という事で しかない
Quote from the game if anyone is interested
"Time is a single path. The past, present, and future are all connected. The parallel world is not about having many worlds. It's just like a rubber band of time, placed on a pinball-like board with countless nails. It's all about 'which nail' the rubber band catches on."
But it's probably not canon, since even Kamachi said that even within the infinite multiverse the events of this novella are impossible/non-canon. Though I find the very fact that rubber string theory is used interesting. Kamachi also uses this concept in another of his works, in which one character creates an infinite number of parallel timelines, with all the possible "What If" possibilities“Please don’t tell me Misaka Mikoto and Shokuhou Misaki are going to continue fighting their way through random worlds until they really do return to their Earth!”
Since those two have yet to appear in this world, one of the endless supply of alternate worlds that exists beyond even the possibilities of the rubber-band-like parallel worlds theory, this story is a work of fiction and has no connection to real people, groups, etc.
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Quote Kamisato about parallel world
Certainly! Here's the entire translated text from the page compiled into one block:
"Time is a one-way road. The past, present, and future are connected. Parallel worlds don't mean there are many worlds; it's just about which nail the rubber band of time catches on, on the board with countless nails. It's not that there are infinite parallel worlds. The 'many-worlds interpretation' is often misunderstood that way.
Just like there is a limit to the energy that constitutes the universe, the number of branches is naturally limited. That's why inconsequential choices, like 'which shirt to wear today' or 'what to eat for breakfast,' don't result in branches. Such minor fluctuations are smoothed out and absorbed by the flow of more significant, decisive choices.
If 'meeting you' was one of those significant, decisive choices, then the world where 'I didn't meet you' does not exist. There's no branch like that. Because I met you, we are here now. No matter how many times I would turn back time, the result would be the same; I would meet you.
It's said that the more significant the event, the more energy it has, and it becomes a 'nail' that definitely catches the rubber band. On the other hand, trivial events don't become nails; they're like dust, ignored by the rubber band of time. For example, the 'Red String of Fate' is not something that one can see, nor is it red.
The 'Red String' is just a metaphor. But it's true that there's a force that pulls certain people together, akin to gravity. This isn't just about romance. It includes the forces that bring friends together, that draw you to certain places, or even the events that lead to you picking up this book.
The force that draws people to each other might be tiny, like gravity. Invisible, but it's there. Perhaps, it could be said that this is the true 'Red String of Fate.' Something that can’t be seen with the eyes, yet undeniable. That's what ties you and me together.
And if you trace back that string, you'll find a massive, complex web, connecting not just people, but events, and even the world's destiny. All of it is linked together by countless strings. That's why even the smallest actions have meaning. They're all part of the vast, interconnected system.
Yet, this doesn't mean that every little action we take is significant in changing the world. Most are absorbed, inconsequential in the grand scheme. But sometimes, just sometimes, there's an action that seems insignificant yet ends up changing everything.
It's like a game of pinball, where the ball, at first glance, seems to be following a straightforward path, but then it hits a nail, changing its direction entirely. Even a small nail can cause a big change in the trajectory.
This is what is so terrifying and yet so wonderful about life. You never know which nail you'll hit next. It's unpredictable, and yet, that's what makes it worth living. The 'what ifs' and the paths not taken are what lead us to the present, the undeniable now.
Each choice you make is not just your own but is influenced by the countless connections and strings you cannot see. They guide you, sometimes subtly, sometimes more overtly. It’s all part of the intricate dance of existence.
The thought that everything could be different if only one tiny thing had changed can be overwhelming. Yet, embracing that everything you experience is the accumulation of all prior choices can give you a deeper appreciation for the present moment. It helps you realize the importance of now.
And in that realization, you find the courage to make choices that matter, to make changes that resonate through the web of life. That's how you create ripples, how you influence not just your own path, but potentially the paths of others across this vast, interconnected universe."
Feel free to copy this block for your use. Let me know if there's anything else you need!
Honestly, it sounds like nonsense. It sounds like the AI took the quote about "not an infinite number of parallel worlds" and just wrote some philosophical text. It's not even close to the original lolFull Translation
This seems honestly to a philosophical thing rather than a full on explanation
By the way, can you please translate this quote from PSP game"Time is a one-way road. The past, present, and future are connected. Parallel worlds don't mean there are many worlds; it's just about which nail the rubber band of time catches on, on the board with countless nails. It's not that there are infinite parallel worlds. The 'many-worlds interpretation' is often misunderstood that way.
Just like there is a limit to the energy that constitutes the universe, the number of branches is naturally limited. That's why inconsequential choices, like 'which shirt to wear today' or 'what to eat for breakfast,' don't result in branches. Such minor fluctuations are smoothed out and absorbed by the flow of more significant, decisive choices.
If 'meeting you' was one of those significant, decisive choices, then the world where 'I didn't meet you' does not exist. There's no branch like that. Because I met you, we are here now. No matter how many times I would turn back time, the result would be the same; I would meet you.
It's said that the more significant the event, the more energy it has, and it becomes a 'nail' that definitely catches the rubber band. On the other hand, trivial events don't become nails; they're like dust, ignored by the rubber band of time. For example, the 'Red String of Fate' is not something that one can see, nor is it red.
The 'Red String' is just a metaphor. But it's true that there's a force that pulls certain people together, akin to gravity. This isn't just about romance. It includes the forces that bring friends together, that draw you to certain places, or even the events that lead to you picking up this book.
The force that draws people to each other might be tiny, like gravity. Invisible, but it's there. Perhaps, it could be said that this is the true 'Red String of Fate.' Something that can’t be seen with the eyes, yet undeniable. That's what ties you and me together.
And if you trace back that string, you'll find a massive, complex web, connecting not just people, but events, and even the world's destiny. All of it is linked together by countless strings. That's why even the smallest actions have meaning. They're all part of the vast, interconnected system.
Yet, this doesn't mean that every little action we take is significant in changing the world. Most are absorbed, inconsequential in the grand scheme. But sometimes, just sometimes, there's an action that seems insignificant yet ends up changing everything.
It's like a game of pinball, where the ball, at first glance, seems to be following a straightforward path, but then it hits a nail, changing its direction entirely. Even a small nail can cause a big change in the trajectory.
This is what is so terrifying and yet so wonderful about life. You never know which nail you'll hit next. It's unpredictable, and yet, that's what makes it worth living. The 'what ifs' and the paths not taken are what lead us to the present, the undeniable now.
Each choice you make is not just your own but is influenced by the countless connections and strings you cannot see. They guide you, sometimes subtly, sometimes more overtly. It’s all part of the intricate dance of existence.
The thought that everything could be different if only one tiny thing had changed can be overwhelming. Yet, embracing that everything you experience is the accumulation of all prior choices can give you a deeper appreciation for the present moment. It helps you realize the importance of now.
And in that realization, you find the courage to make choices that matter, to make changes that resonate through the web of life. That's how you create ripples, how you influence not just your own path, but potentially the paths of others across this vast, interconnected universe."
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The translation is completely wrong. Although I'm not very familiar with English, I could tell at a glance that it was nonsense. The correct translation of that passage is as follows:
"Shincheonji."
The brown-haired boy said nonchalantly, crumpling the empty milk carton as if it were nothing.
"I heard that such a collection of dreams is in my right hand. Indeed, that's right. 'I think it was called the World Rejecter' or something like that."
"...It's impossible. Parallel worlds is..."
"Yeah. It's like attaching a rubber band to a nail-studded slingshot; in the end, it's just a single line. Parallel worlds don't exist infinitely. But at the same time, the world is like a rubber band. It's flexible, like time and space. The world we know has surprisingly a lot of excess - it's like using only 10 cuts out of a 60-cut film. Even if you borrow a couple of the remaining cuts and insert a different movie subliminally, no one would notice. You wanted it, didn't you? Even though you knew it was something that could never be achieved. But you still yearned for it. You 'Magic gods'."
"After investigating the ends of the universe and every overlapping phase, and realizing that there's nothing new left at all. But if such a thing were possible... To throw away all the annoying things of this world and spread your wings in a paradise that no one knows about..."
I am quite inexperienced in English, so my English relies heavily on Claude, Anthropic's AI assistant, and DeepL translator for a significant portion of the work.
Therefore, if there are any parts of my replies that are difficult to understand, I would appreciate it if you could point them out to me clearly and specifically.
時間は一本道だ。
過去も現在も未来もつながっている. パラレルワールドとは、 多くの世界があるの ではない. 時間というゴムヒモを、パチンコ台のように 無数の釘を打った台の.「どこの釘』に引っかけていくか、という事で しかない
Quote from Zashiki WarashiBtw. Quote from MisaMisa novel
But it's probably not canon, since even Kamachi said that even within the infinite multiverse the events of this novella are impossible/non-canon. Though I find the very fact that rubber string theory is used interesting. Kamachi also uses this concept in another of his works, in which one character creates an infinite number of parallel timelines, with all the possible "What If" possibilities
The deluge of noise lost all meaning and became a single cracked roar.
It was on the move. Faint drops of light ran through the Zashiki Warashi’s long glossy black hair.
As soon as that light dripped to the red tatami mats, an infinitely expanding ripple instantly flowed to the horizon in every direction.
That was when it happened.
The way was forcefully closed. Countless translucent and glowing red sliding screens closed in from the left and right between Yukari and me. Some symbols were drawn on the surfaces, but there were too many of them to make out any individual one. I simply saw the Zashiki Warashi standing beyond that red color.
It looked like less than ten meters, but the infinite number of ultra-thin screens created an absolute wall in my way.
They were red.
They were bloodstained.
They seemed to be refusing anyone that would shake her existence, her coloration, and her essence.
“To hell with that…”
What did those screens mean and what were they really?
Why would I bother thinking about that?
“To hell with all of this!!”
I gathered speed and prepared to kick through them rather than open them.
Immediately, I felt my sense of time die once more. This second time, it finally occurred to me that it was much like the feeling of running out into the road and finding a tanker truck approaching you. It was a lot like having your life flash before your eyes. When I felt that and had the incomprehensible phenomenon surround me, I finally realized what those translucent red screens were.
Each and every one was filled with just as much “death” as a speeding tanker truck. An endless supply was lined up before my eyes as a barrier that I couldn’t breach no matter how many lives I had.
——And deep within the rising fear, “it” truly assaulted me.
After a bright flash, I found myself somewhere other than the infinite expanse of tatami mats.
I saw nothing but gray dust for as far as the eye could see. It was a rural scene filled with every form of contaminant imaginable. In this land of the end, simply breathing in and out and simply blinking my eyes filled me with such intense pain that I thought fire was bursting from every hole in my body.
“Gblgh!! Agweh!! Glgah!!!!”
I somewhat understood.
This was the Hyakki Yakou Prototype Ver. 39 Zashiki Warashi.
She could control not just the current destiny, but create a brand new branch of destiny.
Those barriers.
Each and every screen contained an image of hell. It was those images that Buddhist monks drew on screens as a simple warning of what would awaited those who were excommunicated. Those screens of light had a thickness approaching on zero and they were filled with images of failed destinies, mistaken worlds, and hells.
So this was a parallel world that could have happened. It was the result of a mistaken choice on my part. For example, if I had relied on the CIA at Goldmine Island and the national suicide Package had activated, this is what would have happened to the Japanese archipelago.
The pain rushed at me all at once.
I coughed up blood, my blood vessels seemed to crawl below my skin, and I clenched my teeth.
Even so, I moved forward.
I bore the pain of an entire world and moved further forward.
——And “it” wasn’t just the one.
I saw the world after the archipelago filled with zombies according to Majina’s plan. The living dead grabbed at my arms and legs, bit into my flesh with teeth that reeked of decomposition, and tore me apart. Finally, I felt the fear of having my body rot from within.
I was swallowed up by that fear.
But I didn’t care if my arms and legs were torn away or if my organs were dragged out.
I just had to move forward.
I had to keep going.
As I clenched my teeth and worked against the powerful headwind, I suddenly wondered what my enemy was here. I knew it wasn’t the Zashiki Warashi, but it might not have been the Ver. 39 either. Countless handprints oozed out onto her yukata and skulls swam through her glossy hair. They would sometimes circle around to the back with her black hair as a screen, they would sometimes cover her bangs, and they would sometimes move the side of her face as if rubbing cheeks with her. But even they may have been a broken safety device running out of control. Inevitable decline. The hidden side of the world where forgotten destinies gathered. The fragments of the ages gathered here, from past events like Dan-no-Ura, Honnouji, and Sekighara to the “what ifs” where mistaken choices had led to ruin for any number of reasons. The entire world was swallowed and chewed to pieces, and the fragments gathered in this graveyard. Had this awful “something” been dragged toward us because the Ver. 39 had carelessly reached it and contacted it?
In that case, this fight wasn’t about good or evil.
It was about putting a lid on the ruinous power pouring down on us. It was about closing the floodgates in a world of neither good nor evil.
I would do it.
I understood that. I understood it now.
It didn’t matter what I was up against.
I would reach my one and only beloved Yukari no matter what!!
——“It” had a seemingly infinite number of layers.
“Kill me if you like, but it will change nothing. Now, choose to let the children die while resting easy that no one can see this shameful action.”
He clearly did not understand.
Say there was a Person A and a Person B and a single person had to die. That did not mean that you could not save both A and B.
Yes. If Person C saw that terrible situation and gave his own life as an additional option, that single required life could be taken while both A and B were saved.
“Do you remember that I called myself Hyakki Yakou Prototype Ver. 39 Zashiki Warashi?”
“What about it?”
“Do you really think Hyakki Yakou would put together a project that would do nothing more than let them choose between the destinies currently in existence? Do you really think they are such a weak organization that they could not complete a project on that level and it would stall in the prototype phase?”
“You can’t mean…it goes beyond that? But the only phenomenon greater than what you have already demonstrated is…!!”
“I have already shown you I can modify destiny. That is, freely choose from the existing options. But this goes beyond that. Hyakki Yakou attempted and failed to create a method of creating a completely different line of destiny from nothing.”
タングラムですよ。Index世界の超能力, 厳密にはあり得ない結果を自分でつかみ取るので、その時点で平行世界をを少し改変する力ではあるですけれど、それはあくまでも、Index 世界の理の中のことなんです。[ゴムひも理論]で説明できるものなんですが、あくまでも、一つの世界の中のゴムひもしか操れない。でも、タングラムは別で、世界と世界の間で入れ替えする力が持ってるから、どんな世界のゴムひももお構いなしに
Quote from nt18 about "What If" possibilities Aleister Crowley
The issue seems to be the Ai doesn't know the full context. It doesn't know that the page is from To Aru or that there are multiple people talking. That's why it came off that way"Time is a one-way road. The past, present, and future are connected. Parallel worlds don't mean there are many worlds; it's just about which nail the rubber band of time catches on, on the board with countless nails. It's not that there are infinite parallel worlds. The 'many-worlds interpretation' is often misunderstood that way.
Just like there is a limit to the energy that constitutes the universe, the number of branches is naturally limited. That's why inconsequential choices, like 'which shirt to wear today' or 'what to eat for breakfast,' don't result in branches. Such minor fluctuations are smoothed out and absorbed by the flow of more significant, decisive choices.
If 'meeting you' was one of those significant, decisive choices, then the world where 'I didn't meet you' does not exist. There's no branch like that. Because I met you, we are here now. No matter how many times I would turn back time, the result would be the same; I would meet you.
It's said that the more significant the event, the more energy it has, and it becomes a 'nail' that definitely catches the rubber band. On the other hand, trivial events don't become nails; they're like dust, ignored by the rubber band of time. For example, the 'Red String of Fate' is not something that one can see, nor is it red.
The 'Red String' is just a metaphor. But it's true that there's a force that pulls certain people together, akin to gravity. This isn't just about romance. It includes the forces that bring friends together, that draw you to certain places, or even the events that lead to you picking up this book.
The force that draws people to each other might be tiny, like gravity. Invisible, but it's there. Perhaps, it could be said that this is the true 'Red String of Fate.' Something that can’t be seen with the eyes, yet undeniable. That's what ties you and me together.
And if you trace back that string, you'll find a massive, complex web, connecting not just people, but events, and even the world's destiny. All of it is linked together by countless strings. That's why even the smallest actions have meaning. They're all part of the vast, interconnected system.
Yet, this doesn't mean that every little action we take is significant in changing the world. Most are absorbed, inconsequential in the grand scheme. But sometimes, just sometimes, there's an action that seems insignificant yet ends up changing everything.
It's like a game of pinball, where the ball, at first glance, seems to be following a straightforward path, but then it hits a nail, changing its direction entirely. Even a small nail can cause a big change in the trajectory.
This is what is so terrifying and yet so wonderful about life. You never know which nail you'll hit next. It's unpredictable, and yet, that's what makes it worth living. The 'what ifs' and the paths not taken are what lead us to the present, the undeniable now.
Each choice you make is not just your own but is influenced by the countless connections and strings you cannot see. They guide you, sometimes subtly, sometimes more overtly. It’s all part of the intricate dance of existence.
The thought that everything could be different if only one tiny thing had changed can be overwhelming. Yet, embracing that everything you experience is the accumulation of all prior choices can give you a deeper appreciation for the present moment. It helps you realize the importance of now.
And in that realization, you find the courage to make choices that matter, to make changes that resonate through the web of life. That's how you create ripples, how you influence not just your own path, but potentially the paths of others across this vast, interconnected universe."
===================================
The translation is completely wrong. Although I'm not very familiar with English, I could tell at a glance that it was nonsense. The correct translation of that passage is as follows:
"Shincheonji."
The brown-haired boy said nonchalantly, crumpling the empty milk carton as if it were nothing.
"I heard that such a collection of dreams is in my right hand. Indeed, that's right. 'I think it was called the World Rejecter' or something like that."
"...It's impossible. Parallel worlds is..."
"Yeah. It's like attaching a rubber band to a nail-studded slingshot; in the end, it's just a single line. Parallel worlds don't exist infinitely. But at the same time, the world is like a rubber band. It's flexible, like time and space. The world we know has surprisingly a lot of excess - it's like using only 10 cuts out of a 60-cut film. Even if you borrow a couple of the remaining cuts and insert a different movie subliminally, no one would notice. You wanted it, didn't you? Even though you knew it was something that could never be achieved. But you still yearned for it. You 'Magic gods'."
"After investigating the ends of the universe and every overlapping phase, and realizing that there's nothing new left at all. But if such a thing were possible... To throw away all the annoying things of this world and spread your wings in a paradise that no one knows about..."
I am quite inexperienced in English, so my English relies heavily on Claude, Anthropic's AI assistant, and DeepL translator for a significant portion of the work.
Therefore, if there are any parts of my replies that are difficult to understand, I would appreciate it if you could point them out to me clearly and specifically.
Quote from Zashiki Warashi
I was reminded of this quote
How come the AI created a rather interesting, philosophical concept of fate, from a single line about the nonexistence of an infinite number of parallel worlds?The issue seems to be the Ai doesn't know the full context. It doesn't know that the page is from To Aru or that there are multiple people talking. That's why it came off that way
Interview Kamachi about Virtual-On. It also says that Othinus is equal in strength to Tangram.タングラムですよ。Index世界の超能力, 厳密にはあり得ない結果を自分でつかみ取るので、その時点で平行世界をを少し改変する力ではあるですけれど、それはあくまでも、Index 世界の理の中のことなんです。[ゴムひも理論]で説明できるものなんですが、あくまでも、一つの世界の中のゴムひもしか操れない。でも、タングラムは別で、世界と世界の間で入れ替えする力が持ってるから、どんな世界のゴムひももお構いなしに.
Can you tell me where that passage came from?
I have the original Toaru Virtual On novel, but I haven't played the game myself, so I only know a brief summary of the story. Is there a part in the game that I might have missed?
Interview Kamachi about Virtual-On. It also says that Othinus is equal in strength to Tangram.
One person has already translated this quote, but another translation would be nice
Phases are Phases, they don't matter at this topic. I find it more interesting that Tangram and the MisaMisa novel cannot be explained by the concepts of ToAru world(Kamachi even explicitly says so in the epilogue), i.e. the perspective of a single timeline with infinite possibilities(other worlds).It appears in the interview section.
Othinus makes a reappearance. She appears as a being who can talk on equal terms with Tangram as a Magic God.
In the scenarios throughout the story, they are dragged against their will into a world that only gods like Othinus can perceive, somewhere between the world of "A Certain Magical Index" and the world of "Virtual On". Moreover, the power that should have already disappeared has been restored, and from her perspective, she no longer needs that power... Due to this situation, she is very irritated with Tangram at their first encounter.
The idea that the toaru world is made up of a single timeline is merely the main scientific theory currently prevalent in the Index universe. That's why even ordinary people like Kamisato can easily know about this fact. However, in reality, toaru world cannot be explained solely by that, because there exist numerous phases of pure physical laws, as well as many layers of religion and mythology stacked on top of them.
"The parallel world theory, which is considered as one of the hypotheses by the Board of Directors, is a situation that cannot be explained by our current mainstream "rubber band theory of history.
In the rubber band theory, although the world is one, it is divided into multiple branches, creating various new parallel worlds. It is closer to the image of inserting a rubber band onto a board with a large number of nails, such as in pinball or slingshot, and refracting it in various ways to create a single path. It is more like a fabrication that freely manipulates the one and only history.
On the other hand, to explain "Blue Stalker", a hypothesis that "multiple worlds literally exist in parallel" is necessary."
And according to the Virtual On novel, it is explicitly stated that these are merely hypotheses in our world, and that various parallel worlds will be generated.
However, everything we have discussed so far, and now, has no meaning in terms of scaling in Toaru.
This is because Alice, a being who can expand all the theories that appeared in Toaru worlds, regardless of their truth, falsehood, or contradictions, has appeared.
Moreover, her magic called Bridge is repeatedly and explicitly mentioned to be on the same level as Mgs' Phase manipulation, so Mgs is also expanded.
Even if the hypothesis is true and Toaru is a single timeline, this can be consistent with the part where Othinus is mentioned as an equal being to Tangram, who governs all infinite parallel worlds.
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