Transformers feats/discussion

grillmaster said:

as a rule of thumb, as part of the scaling i suggested for this community a while ago, i assume all universes space-times are universe+
if using dimensional tiering () theyre all 4d
the reason being people have been arguing about finite vs infinite universes when what I think is most important is the distinction should be between destroying the matter WITHIN a universe vs destroying TIME ITSELF

a finite space-time is absurd, unless the universe in question is on a timer to destroy itself after like a trillion years, our real world universe doesn't have a finite amount of time. space-time itself is infinite the universe is constantly expanding, unless the big rip or the big crunch happens time will just go on forever, time is infinite at least how we know it to function in our universe

so low universal would be destroying all matter in the known universe
universal + is destroying all matter in an infinite universe (infinite matter in an infinitely sized universe) or destroying space-time (time itself is without end, or maybe even without beginning)

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ig i can agree most of your points.

OtherGalaxy said:

thanks to @grillmaster for pointing this out to me



We have a possible confirmation? that the Astral Plane is within the Allspark. I've read this bit multiple times and never caught that lol

So Tree of Life>>>Astral Plane>>Realm of the Primes (Possibly)>the rest of the multiverse

It's up to interpretation but Vector does say "within the confines of the Allspark" so I am assuming it means the Astral Plane is within it or tied to it on some level

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Wasn't the Realm of the Primes from the Aligned continuity? Aligned was also a seperate multiverse i believe.

OtherGalaxy said:

I believe that's where it was actually named was Ask Vector Prime also referred to similar appearances in non-Aligned material with the same name eg. when Vector fought Mogahn the Mass and got Rhisling, he also went there. But yeah Aligned was outside of the "main" multiverse at the time irc

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ic thanks

Also you didn't answered my question, If I could repeat it though

The Unicron who sensed Vector Prime died to the Matrix?

OtherGalaxy said:

the echoes and fragments one?
yeah, it was basically just an 86 movie adjacent timeline Unicron. Gong and Sideways were mixing and match a timeline just like the 86 movie to have random Go Bots elements.

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ahh ic, thanks for the evaluation (btw no your fault you were replying late lol, its my fault i asked stupid shit)

yeah its an 86 storyline but interestingly its very specifically noted that Primus exists in that reality, implying that this might actually be singularity Unicron as well which honestly makes more sense

OtherGalaxy said:

the echoes and fragments one?
yeah, it was basically just an 86 movie adjacent timeline Unicron. Gong and Sideways were mixing and match a timeline just like the 86 movie to have random Go Bots elements.

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Apparently this didn't affect unicron's avatar at all, so he apparently doesn't care about multiverse-level reality distortions hahahaha

Lol

OtherGalaxy said:

reason I take AVP’s uncountable statement as the standard btw is because we also have numerous statements, including directly from Primus, that all possible (and even purely hypothetical) versions of the universe exist. So even though it’s just one statement it’s still valid for scaling the singularity characters as a whole.

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Can I ask where it's from(from Primus)?

OtherGalaxy said:

the echoes and fragments one?
yeah, it was basically just an 86 movie adjacent timeline Unicron. Gong and Sideways were mixing and match a timeline just like the 86 movie to have random Go Bots elements.

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can you send me those texts from the story?

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How the hell does vs wiki get island level from an explosion that occured in space? It's impossible to scale the explosion from Earth's curvature since there is perspective at play in that shot. The only scalable thing present near the explosion is the Insecticon Swarm, which is decidedly not planet sized in terms of its scale as a collective.

However, the video game OP did no sell reentry easily and the explosion in that video is still pretty large, but I disagree that it's anywhere near island level.

Edit: Also, the Insecticons when deactivated somehow fell at massively hypersonic speed to Earth (the scene happened in real time as they hit the ground before OP even lowered his arm after he shot that glowing thing, which I forgot what it was) and their bodies no sold it, which is also impressive.

i think there was a calc somewhere

yeah i checked they used the curve of the earth i uh dunno why seems odd considering the insecticons are still visible

if it were like a shot from ground level or something i could get it but thats a pretty flimsy calc

grillmaster said:

yeah i checked they used the curve of the earth i uh dunno why seems odd considering the insecticons are still visible

if it were like a shot from ground level or something i could get it but thats a pretty flimsy calc

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In fact, Ferrotaxis could cause planetary destruction if it were to malfunction while feeding on the plasma core's energy.

Is this an explosion of a planet or a star?

i think thats just an explosion in space so its a fireball, not a planet or star

Since nobody posted anything about Transformers vs GI Joe, I figured I'd post it even though I don't usually post non-Bayverse related stuff here.

1.) Starscream and Shockwave can lift a GI Joe battleship together and Starscream punches through its hull.



2.) Megatron seemingly vaporizes Scourge's torso.


3.) Soundwave is shot by a satelitte, which produces seemingly nuclear tier explosion.


He dies but his body is mostly intact.


4.) Megatron uses his black hole heart to pull Autobots together to him and he forms a combiner with Movie Megatron's silhoutte.

This combined form is defeated when Nemesis is rammed into him.

5.) Megatron burns at the core of the sun long enough for Autobots to arrive back to Earth from the battle near the Sun.
He survives but is burned to crisp.


6.) This may or may not count. In here, Ultra Magnus crashes through Primus' eye. Primus is planet sized here. However, the scale in this series is kind of messy, so it is possible it is not meant to be taken seriously.

Anti feats:
1.) Half of Starscream's face is gone when Snake Eyes drops a stack of grenades on his face.


2.) GI Joe's guns do some surface level damage to Devastator.