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Transformers feats/discussion

The Fallen, using a fraction of his remaining power, was able to heal all of Megatron's damage.

He was able to change Megatron's body, strengthening it, which is apparently why he acquired most of his abilities (increasing his mass threefold, an interdimensional bridge with which he can move between stars, and a cell for dividing dark matter) this can probably be attributed to transmutation, strengthening statistics and granting powers.
Can harm Megatron while in another dimension.

It is directly stated that he was weakened very much, so this explains his loss.

As shown, copies of the Allspark destroyed another solar system.

Considering this, he was able to take the Star Harvester explosion and the Fake Matrix explosion in his face, the former can absorb all the energy of a star, which would essentially destroy that star system, and the latter is almost equal to the Allspark, so he took two star and solar system level explosions.
 
Optimus beat Shockwave so badly that he had to change his body to a new one in Dark of the moon.

We know that Shockwave can easily withstand falls that would cause a Tunguska event, its power varies from 10 to 40 megatons.
Ravage, although destroyed, remains in decent condition during the explosion of the plant.

Arcee, Chromia and Elita One can easily dodge lasers which in Bayverse at least in the novel are described as flying at the speed of light at least in the scene with the Star Harvester beam.

Demolisher destroyed many large buildings with his movement.
 
how were they not able to locate a single star for the allspark. just look up bro
 
By the way guys, it seems to be mentioned that the current multiverse was formed from fragments of the old realms, this essentially means a huge difference between the old Realms and the multiverse that currently exists, something like this?
@OtherGalaxy
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So the multiverse that exists was formed from subatomic parts of an old reality that is so superior to it.
 
this is true yeah, though I’m not sure we can get a clear idea of the scale because it was basically a cosmic reaction that birthed a bunch of new stuff


however Reaching the Omega Point does say the new universe was not made to contain beings like Unicron and Primus, which obviously infers that the Old Realms were
 
OtherGalaxy said:
that...is a really good question actually, I'm not sure off the top of my head
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Ah. Though I'm p sure I heard some Multiversal arguments for those, but gotta reread Reaching to Omega Point. But moreorless, would the normal Matrix of Leadership scale to this since the Matrix of Conquest IS a polar opposite to the normal one?
 
Optimus Prime 654 said:
Ah. Though I'm p sure I heard some Multiversal arguments for those, but gotta reread Reaching to Omega Point. But moreorless, would the normal Matrix of Leadership scale to this since the Matrix of Conquest IS a polar opposite to the normal one?
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My stance on the Matrix may be a bit different than others, but I personally would only scale it if the Matrix directly interacted with or counteracted it. Since the Matrix is drawing from a literal god-tier of the setting and obviously we've never seen a character able to hypothetically tap into all of Primus' power, I just go by what each Matrix has individually achieved on its own. There is something in Omega Point where the Covenant go in and fight off Unicron's weakened essence but it's hard to really figure out where that puts them since he was running on fumes at the time after his "death" in 2005
 
iirc even in one of the Reaching to Omega Point stories even stated that Unicron's destruction by the Matrix caused to tear the fabric of overspace (which was referring to Transwarp space)
 
There seems to be a version from Prime Wars that made Rodimus a character capable of being on equal terms with Megatronus, which is probably on a planet level I think?
 
В это же время он получил удар от Омеги Прайма.
 

Ark Unicron (2012) - Universal Dominator - www.tfu.info

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The soul of Unicron's avatar can exist on the astral plane.
 
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