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Thirteen prime said:
0:40|Ахахаха Метроплекс способен поднять семьдесят тысяч тонн.
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lol the tech specs are canon now
the 70,000 tons thing comes from metroplexs original bio
im pretty sure tech specs actually exist in canon too in other series though i cant remember which
(why i actually kind of wish tech specs were a coherent scale lmfao)
 
ik the dc universe is huge or something but this is still funny as hell we're measuring shit in finite universes in a fight with unicron
 
VSB actually has a really great breakdown of dc's cosmology....which for some reason the wiki proper completely ignores and uses an extremely butchered lowballed one. Scaling DC is much less straightforward than marvel, but 10x universal won't even get you past some versions of Megatron man....
 
Doronbo_Shirake said:
How big is the Transformers Multiverse? Because the DC multiverse is not infinite now. See General Comics thread form more info.
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There's not really a short answer to this, but OP of this thread goes over the size in detail

Transformers has 3 known "main" multiverses (I haven't researched the Dead Multiverse at all though), however the size of them is waaaaaay bigger than your standard infinite multiverse since each universe has an "Uncountable Infinity" of branch universes, and even the smallest uncountable infinity is infinitely larger than a "countable infinity". This makes the equivalent universes of just the main Positive multiverse roughly equal to an infinite amount of multiverses per universe

It is ridiculous, but that is the information we have to go off for now. There are tons of statements about all possible versions of, and hypothetical versions of, the universes existing. So we know this ridiculous amount of branch realities are real and that Primus/Unicron/The 13 perceive them even if sometimes they are short-lived or something.
 
that said I personally doubt dc limited their multiverses that much, just because in big franchises there are always statements about how the multiverse is limited (TF has these too albeit they're vastly outnumbered) that get contradicted by other material
 
OtherGalaxy said:
На этот вопрос нет короткого ответа, но в ОП этой темы подробно рассматривается размер.

У «Трансформеров» есть 3 известных «основных» мультивселенных (хотя я вообще не исследовал Мертвую Мультивселенную), однако размер их ваааааа больше, чем ваша стандартная бесконечная мультивселенная, поскольку каждая вселенная имеет «несчетную бесконечность» ветвящихся вселенных, и даже наименьшая несчетная бесконечность бесконечно больше «счетной бесконечности». Это делает эквивалентные вселенные только основной Позитивной мультивселенной примерно равными бесконечному количеству мультивселенных на каждую вселенную.

Это смешно, но это именно та информация, которую нам нужно сейчас использовать. Существует масса утверждений обо всех возможных и гипотетических версиях существования вселенных. Итак, мы знаем, что это нелепое количество реалий ветвей реальны и что Примус/Юникрон/13 воспринимают их, даже если иногда они недолговечны или что-то в этом роде.
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OtherGalaxy said:
тем не менее, я лично сомневаюсь, что DC так сильно ограничил свои мультивселенные, просто потому, что в больших франшизах всегда есть утверждения о том, насколько ограничена мультивселенная (у TF они тоже есть, хотя их значительно меньше), которые противоречат другим материалам.
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По сути, это моя бесконечность против вашей бесконечности.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
that said I personally doubt dc limited their multiverses that much, just because in big franchises there are always statements about how the multiverse is limited (TF has these too albeit they're vastly outnumbered) that get contradicted by other material
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They will change it in 2 or 5 years. Like they did with the "DC multiverse only has 52 Earths" thing.
 
Thirteen prime said:
По сути, это моя бесконечность против вашей бесконечности.
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that's the name of the game these days. Transformers, courtesy of Jim Sorenson dropping a one off line in AVP, just happens to have a lot of infinities, albeit for the amount of universes since we don't have any concrete info on the higher dimensional stuff really.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
VSB actually has a really great breakdown of dc's cosmology....which for some reason the wiki proper completely ignores and uses an extremely butchered lowballed one. Scaling DC is much less straightforward than marvel, but 10x universal won't even get you past some versions of Megatron man....
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solar system level superman is still bullshit lmfao post crisis fought pre crisis superman and their fight nearly destroyed both universes
i remember that feat from BEFORE I EVEN REALLY KNEW WHAT POWERSCALING WAS
 
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