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BTW, I forgot to mention this says that Slug's roar can shatter every window in a 15 mile radius.

Edit: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Explosion_Yield_Calculations

I used the formula on the VS Wiki page above and plugged the numbers (15 miles = 24140 meters and 0.15 psi = 0.0103421359 bars*) to calculate the force and got 171 kilotons of TNT.

* I used 0.15 psi, since that's apparently the minimum to shatter window glass according to the article).

One guy on Comicvine who's good at math claimed it would equal 2 megatons instead though.

Not sure if that 0.15 psi would apply to the whole radius, wouldn't the psi be greater within the epicenter than at the edge of the radius? Would it all be 0.15? Eh idk.
It's certainly not all 0.15psi. Because sound energy and explosion are different forms of energy action, the effect is different.
 
i took this to mean "most subjects can crack a mountainside, but metroplex can lift the whole mountain" seeing as lifting a mountain side is like lifting a hillside
how do you lift a side of a mountain
Writers have brain cramps, they don't know what they're writing
 
i took this to mean "most subjects can crack a mountainside, but metroplex can lift the whole mountain" seeing as lifting a mountain side is like lifting a hillside
how do you lift a side of a mountain
In fact, it takes more energy to destroy a mountain with one blow than to lift it up, I think these writers have no concept of physics
 


Bumblebee no-sells catching Evac falling from a skyscraper with the force to collapse much of the ground beneath him.
Timestamp: 3:44

Also, it seems Optimus also fell and he destroyed even more of the concrete ground. Timestamp: 3:55.


Timestamp: 4:21.
Indeed it seems the destruction behind Optimus is seperate from the one caused by Bumblebee catching Evac and is likely caused by him falling to the ground (you can see Optimus falling from the skyscraper alongside Megatron). You can clearly see that there was no damage to the ground before Evac, Megatron and Optimus started falling at 3:55 of the previous video.

Alternatively, it might have been caused by Megatron falling (his body is intact). Albeit he fell in a different place.
 
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The earthquake’s damage is small, but certainly is noticeable, so I would say this is a magnitude 4, to a magnitude 5 earthquake. So as a lowball, we’ll say that it’s a mag. 4 earthquake. These earthquakes usually produce 25,118,864,315 joules of energy, translated this to tons and we have 6.0035526565487575823 tons of tnt, or large building level according to VSBW. As a high ball, magnitude 5 earthquakes often produce 794,328,234,724 joules of energy, or around 190 tons of tnt.
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Medium and higher transformers are apparently capable of lifting and throwing tanks (60 tons+) and lifting and carrying hundreds of tons of other equipment.RCO007 (14).jpgRCO011 (9).jpgRCO015 (17).jpg
 
whan The Fallen had arrived, the concussion that shook the earth knocked nearly all the humans and several of the Autobots off their feet as well as sending Optimus back to ground.Screenshot_2024_1119_090501.pngScreenshot_2024_1119_090510.pngIMG_20241119_101540.jpgIMG_20241119_101552.jpg
 


Bumblebee no-sells catching Evac falling from a skyscraper with the force to collapse much of the ground beneath him.
Timestamp: 3:44

Also, it seems Optimus also fell and he destroyed even more of the concrete ground. Timestamp: 3:55.


Timestamp: 4:21.
Indeed it seems the destruction behind Optimus is seperate from the one caused by Bumblebee catching Evac and is likely caused by him falling to the ground (you can see Optimus falling from the skyscraper alongside Megatron). You can clearly see that there was no damage to the ground before Evac, Megatron and Optimus started falling at 3:55 of the previous video.

Alternatively, it might have been caused by Megatron falling (his body is intact). Albeit he fell in a different place.

Here are some anti-feats,such as Blackout broke his arm when he was hit by a train
 
iirc the Gen Selects manga retconned the Oracle into being a version of Primus that Primacron trapped, but it’s kind of weird
ic... so the Japanese' creation matrix is Outerversal right due to having it's connections to the Oracle since in the Japan, the Oracle was known to be Primus, in the US media, Beast machines and BW Uprising tells that it was known to be like a shell program or smth which was made by the Quintessons ever since they were manipulating the Oracle and since it was trapped in Vector Sigma?

The Oracle was known to be an aspect of Primus since in the US, Primus can speak through the Oracle, however the Japan did like kinda changed it or some shit.
 
This means TF2 Devastator and TF4 Galvatron is powered by a man-made singularities/-black holes. The unofficial AVP on Tumblr also mentioned it.IMG_20241119_222437.jpegIMG_20241119_222443.pngIMG_20241119_222449.png
 
Here are some anti-feats,such as Blackout broke his arm when he was hit by a train
Yeah, there are also some anti feats in the Titan magazines comics.

This means TF2 Devastator and TF4 Galvatron is powered by a man-made singularities/-black holes. The unofficial AVP on Tumblr also mentioned it.View attachment 2783View attachment 2784View attachment 2785
For what it's worth, Revenge of the Fallen Junior Novel describes Jetfire's space bridge technology as him opening an artificial black hole.

As for what the Battle Bios are, they were the online bios found in Transformers.com IIRC.
 
ic... so the Japanese' creation matrix is Outerversal right due to having it's connections to the Oracle since in the Japan, the Oracle was known to be Primus, in the US media, Beast machines and BW Uprising tells that it was known to be like a shell program or smth which was made by the Quintessons ever since they were manipulating the Oracle and since it was trapped in Vector Sigma?

The Oracle was known to be an aspect of Primus since in the US, Primus can speak through the Oracle, however the Japan did like kinda changed it or some shit.
sorry, been a busy weekend

scans regarding Primus being/becoming the Oracle in the manga
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I am hesitant to call this Oracle 'outerversal' or anything like that though, it was clearly restrained by both Primacron and the ancestors of the Quintessons, who are mainly using its power to control the universe (or precursor multiverse if you wanted to expand it to that)

The Oracle also in Beast Wars Uprising is what tells Longrack about the Singularity Ablyss stuff though, but like you said, Primus speaks through it, to me that doesn't net any kind of full scope or scaling.

In general, despite my arguing for much higher interpretations of Transformers characters, especially the god tiers, I tend to be really conservative about cross scaling, because in Transformers even two seemingly identical concepts or characters can have wildly different contexts and showings. We're dealing with a series where a lot of contradictory information is all canon to one another, so I try not to weigh one interpretation in one continuity against others too heavily. Singularity characters in particular show how varied their feats/scaling can be despite all being the same person.
 
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Singularity Prima came in the Bayverse body he had in the IDW movie comic to stop or aid Nexus Prime. If that incarnation was uber weak, he probably wouldn't have come like that, I guess. The one in the above image is not necessarily the IDW movie version but at least A version of the Bayverse version. Source: Out of Many, One.

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