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TYPE-Moon/Nasuverse Feats/General Thread - People Die If They Are Killed Edition

 
Ah, so Alter Ego Gilgamesh not only just stole Hippolayta's thunder, not only stopped Gugulanna's Lightning but is basically the full on anti-Gilgamesh in every fashion, including activating the Noble Phantasms all at once...

Narita's fucking cooked, for real.
 
gil really is hogan lmao

And it's not even the good kind and it's the reason I see alot of people fully believe Gilgamesh is just the "Win" button when that's not actually how he works character wise and Narita basically turned both him and Alcides into his "Kenpachi Zaraki".

Like yeah, Gilgamesh is canonically OP and so is Heracles(To the point it does make sense Alcides should be powerful as fuck as Heracles' Willpower alone tend to outstrip his Divinity on 2 accounts), but it's pretty clear that Narita basically was focusing too much on the wrong people(especially without even offing them) that he's rushing to a conclusion all at once and it just doesn't fit right.

So you literally have Alter-Ego Gilgamesh basically being the answer to Gugulanna Alcides and basically steal Hippolayta's own thunder and she basically gains fucking nothing from it... fucking why?!
 

it's weird cuz alter ego gi's shtick of being like, bloodlusted gil who optimally uses the gate, narita already established archer gil as like that. enkidu being in the war made him take the shit more seriously by default. he had to be kinda dragged to that point, sure, cuz he's still gil, but he was ultimately doing shit like deploying defensive NPs against richard before he used chains to take control over his GoB spam to concentrate it, or in the second alcides fight, he was aiming for the gaps in the pelt and deploying more esoteric shit from the Gate to test the limits

he shoulda died back in volume 5/6 (i can't remember which). it was a perfect moment for him (him staying standing even through hydra venom cuz of sheer pride), there was enough shenanigans involved so it didn't feel like gil got jobbed out to the narita oc (ishtar cutting off the gate and jumping him with humbaba after he took nine lives), and it immediately solidifies 'em as threats. and beyond that, narita just needed to start axing fuckers off way back. we're heading into volume 10 and there's been, what, one-ish confirmed death and that's jack?
 

Someone put in the highlights of Volume 9 onto Reddit so if anyone cares:


TL;DR everything went to absolute shit and will all conclude at once in Volume 10...
 
This is something I've been wondering for a bit, but what are the strongest Servants Chaldea actually has the ability to summon/deploy, no strings attached?
 
This is something I've been wondering for a bit, but what are the strongest Servants Chaldea actually has the ability to summon/deploy, no strings attached?

Ritsuka the Master or Chaldeas with it's resources? The answer for Ritsuka is theoretically of the Servants... as Shadow Servants and only for maybe like a few seconds and not at full power but capable of using their NPs.

For Chaldea with it's resources? All of them at the full power their Saint Graphs is capable of giving them.
It's explicitly stated in LB7 and further confirmed when you go into the 4 Servants they summoned with the help of the Magical Energy Generators in the Storm Border are not only at their 3rd Ascensions(explicitly shown and stated to be their full power) but they even extra skills or otherwise they wouldn't have.

This is a bit more obvious with the Bakin Event where Super Orion was able to dead ass tie Tametomo's BS Arrow despite Tametomo being supported by a Grail and Super Orion just had the maximum amount of Magical Energy to his person.
 
Technically all of them as shadow servants but they are temporary summonings in story

Regular graphs Morgan claims she's roughly 1/3 of her original power
 
There's also Draco who canonically summons herself into Chaldea. She and the other Beasts (and anyone who has Independent Manifestation) should theoretically be able to exert their full power.

That said, they're still Beasts and for the most part are only there because of their specific hang-ups about Ritsuka.

Like Kiara doesn't actually give a shit about humanity, she just wants to watch the dude who beat her struggle with saving humanity.
 
Their power gets limited if they choose to manifest in the current worlds

Of course they can always just, do what they did in the story and get around it by pulling off their usual schemes
 
Yeah, iirc in the Draco event Kama almost goes Beast mode when Ritsuka gets snatched and the Kiara slaps her upside the head and tells her to stop causing problems

And then Draco goes and just summons herself as a Beast because fuck you