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TYPE-Moon/Nasuverse Feats/General Thread - People Die If They Are Killed Edition

Within the hurricane clouds



This battle was unlike any other.

It was a clash between two humans in appearance only. The power of nature colliding against human will in a scene right out of an epic tale.

In the storm, the Amazon horsewoman tried to open a new path to her fate.

The arrows from her bow cut the winds, rode the lightning, and pierced the rain.

Then, she swung her giant battleaxe on the path they opened.

All of that proved her strength and determination.

Blessed by her father Ares and by Artemis to whom she was given as a priestess.

Her experience leading the tribe as a queen and her pure study of martial arts.

Furthermore, the maximum back-up she could have received from her Masters.

She poured all that she was given and all that she built up into defeating Alcides.

Her Noble Phantasm: one battleaxe strike.

Her steed's hooves touch the floor at the same time as she swings down, with her enemy visible a few dozen meters ahead.

And now, a long straight wound was carved in Alcides's body.
The strike was capable of erasing part of the hurricane, not to bisect his body.
Nonetheless, Hippolyte certainly wounded the body she had believed to be invincible.
Hippolyte kept the pressure going.
She sought to keep this offensive momentum, but her arm stopped.
Her polished warrior instincts noticed something:
Someone appeared where they were—someone concealing immense power.

The same happened for Alcides. Instead of looking at Hippolyte, the one who put a huge wound on his body, he looked east.

And now, a long straight wound was carved in Alcides's body.
The strike was capable of erasing part of the hurricane, not to bisect his body.
Nonetheless, Hippolyte certainly wounded the body she had believed to be invincible.
Hippolyte kept the pressure going.
She sought to keep this offensive momentum, but her arm stopped.
Her polished warrior instincts noticed something:
Someone appeared where they were—someone concealing immense power.

The same happened for Alcides. Instead of looking at Hippolyte, the one who put a huge wound on his body, he looked east. "What's this…?"

Cold sweat ran down Hippolyte's back.
An unidentified presence was squeezing through the cloudy galestorm and getting inside the cumulonimbus.
It was a presence she knew she felt before.
But with one fundamental difference.
And before she could try to figure out what was it that wasn't like before—

Time stopped completely inside the clouds.

Hundreds of thousands of lightning flashes covered the cumulonimbus in white darkness.
It took one instant for the all the flashes to completely disappear, and the clouds to become a wall of darkness blocking the sun's light. At the top of the hurricane cloud, the sky was isolated from the central area serving as the eye of the whirlwind, locking the space around Alcides and Hippolyte in perfect dark.

(This can't have been Alcides. But who else other than Zeus could have instantly pacified so much thunderbolt?)
Hippolyte had many questions.
And the answer came in the form of a sound in the darkness. The beautiful tone of a string instrument.
A singular sound, not part of any melody.
A purifying sound that clears the air. A timbre that presumably didn't belong in a battlefield.

"Was that… a lyre… or a harp?"

As soon as the trailing note reminiscent of an ancient instrument faded, something stabbed the ground on an area distant from Alcides and Hippolyte.
It shone golden light, purifying the floor like it was filtering muddy waters.

"A sword…?". To answer Hippolyte's whisper, the sound reverberated a second time.
The sound practically had an attractive force that guided the listener's attention to the sky.
She couldn't tell how conscious Alcides was, but his face covered in Nemean leather was also looking at the sky.
Eventually, a small star gained life in the sky accompanying the echoing sounds—
And contrary to the sounds that reached the skies, the light fell to the floor.

It crashed in a different place from the previous sword. A spear clad in magical radiance that made one mistake it for gold.

One more echo, accompanied by another weapon descending to the floor.

As the process repeated, the interval between sounds grew shorter—eventually performing a melody.
Understanding what that meant, Hippolyte glared at the sky with a tight grip on her weapon.

She watched the moment one of the stars gained form in the pitch-black sky.
Far above her head, at the top of the closed cumulonimbus dome, shone a ring of countless lights.

"Gh…!"

Hippolyte and Alcides already knew what that meant.
They could tell that the light was not a guidepost to hope, but rather a despair-bringing radiance of judgment, because they had seen it in the northern canyons. Seconds later, the starry sky came down.
The glimmer of death poured down within the hurricane clouds like a waterfall of light.

Hippolyte's bow rapid-fired arrows, offsetting the lights raining in her direction.
Alcides also swatted away the lights raining directly on him by swinging his heavy bow.

The meteor shower eventually came to an end, with plentiful crops of faint golden light spread around the two.
Whereas instead of wheat, it were the numerous armaments fallen from the sky that were planted there.

"Just what I thought it was…", Hippolyte groaned.

A feat from a Heroic Spirit she believed to be dead.
She couldn't imagine another Heroic Spirit in the same Holy Grail War would also be able to employ such ludicrous amounts of objects.
However, previously, the fired Noble Phantasms would immediately vanish to be continuously fired. This time, they remained stabbed on the floor, continuing to emit their brightness.
Numerous armaments disorderly pierced the ground, but it was evident that each of them carried qualities worthy of the Noble Phantasm qualification.
The visible roster included not only swords, axes, and spears, but also books, wands, and rings. "Mm?"

They behaved similarly, but were not the same.
Disturbed by the uncanny discrepancy, Hippolyte got to hear the string instrument once more.
A singular sound, not part of any melody.
In the direction of the sound, she found a mini golden lyre rotating midair—and a short shadow floating next to it.
The trees broken by the galestorm piled up together when she wasn't looking, and a young boy sat on them.
"Hi."

A voice as clear as the lyre.
A Heroic Spirit with a voice matching his apparent age glanced at the horsewoman and the avenger.
Despite the completely different age, his face resembled the first loser of the Holy Grail War.
But he was different from that bowman.
Fundamentally different from that arrogant king. As soon as Hippolyte reached that conclusion, the floating lyre sounded on its own, without anyone's fingers dragging its strings.

"Does this count as our first meeting?", the boy quietly mused in sync with sound of the lyre.

"My utmost respect goes to you, magnanimous heroes.", the boy stood up and courteously bowed.

His gesture had no traces of snideness or unctuousness. There were tangible implications that his respect was sincere.
From the moment he lowered his head, it was already proven he was not the archer.
After Hippolyte was convinced, the boy calmly raised his head.
And then, he said the following to the two figures in his eyes, with the same respect as before.

"To prove it…"

Next, every one of Noble Phantasms planted all over the floor unleashed their energy.
Their shine gave a new color to the cumulonimbus previously colored by the lightning.

"I bring you the end of times
 
Ah, so Alter Ego Gilgamesh not only just stole Hippolayta's thunder, not only stopped Gugulanna's Lightning but is basically the full on anti-Gilgamesh in every fashion, including activating the Noble Phantasms all at once...

Narita's fucking cooked, for real.
 
gil really is hogan lmao

And it's not even the good kind and it's the reason I see alot of people fully believe Gilgamesh is just the "Win" button when that's not actually how he works character wise and Narita basically turned both him and Alcides into his "Kenpachi Zaraki".

Like yeah, Gilgamesh is canonically OP and so is Heracles(To the point it does make sense Alcides should be powerful as fuck as Heracles' Willpower alone tend to outstrip his Divinity on 2 accounts), but it's pretty clear that Narita basically was focusing too much on the wrong people(especially without even offing them) that he's rushing to a conclusion all at once and it just doesn't fit right.

So you literally have Alter-Ego Gilgamesh basically being the answer to Gugulanna Alcides and basically steal Hippolayta's own thunder and she basically gains fucking nothing from it... fucking why?!
 
And it's not even the good kind and it's the reason I see alot of people fully believe Gilgamesh is just the "Win" button when that's not actually how he works character wise and Narita basically turned both him and Alcides into his "Kenpachi Zaraki".

Like yeah, Gilgamesh is canonically OP and so is Heracles(To the point it does make sense Alcides should be powerful as fuck as Heracles' Willpower alone tend to outstrip his Divinity on 2 accounts), but it's pretty clear that Narita basically was focusing too much on the wrong people(especially without even offing them) that he's rushing to a conclusion all at once and it just doesn't fit right.

So you literally have Alter-Ego Gilgamesh basically being the answer to Gugulanna Alcides and basically steal Hippolayta's own thunder and she basically gains fucking nothing from it... fucking why?!

it's weird cuz alter ego gi's shtick of being like, bloodlusted gil who optimally uses the gate, narita already established archer gil as like that. enkidu being in the war made him take the shit more seriously by default. he had to be kinda dragged to that point, sure, cuz he's still gil, but he was ultimately doing shit like deploying defensive NPs against richard before he used chains to take control over his GoB spam to concentrate it, or in the second alcides fight, he was aiming for the gaps in the pelt and deploying more esoteric shit from the Gate to test the limits

he shoulda died back in volume 5/6 (i can't remember which). it was a perfect moment for him (him staying standing even through hydra venom cuz of sheer pride), there was enough shenanigans involved so it didn't feel like gil got jobbed out to the narita oc (ishtar cutting off the gate and jumping him with humbaba after he took nine lives), and it immediately solidifies 'em as threats. and beyond that, narita just needed to start axing fuckers off way back. we're heading into volume 10 and there's been, what, one-ish confirmed death and that's jack?
 


Someone put in the highlights of Volume 9 onto Reddit so if anyone cares:

Bridge Cliffhanger
The countdown for Aurora Fall is still going, the US government overseers are still trying to manage the cover-up
At some point in the future, the entire city of Snowfield and everyone in it completely disappears in a single moment (and Hurricane Inanna goes with it at the same time)
And it is replaced by a giant circular pit of darkness (almost exactly like the one Prelati put over the industrial district in Day 2, but covering the whole city)
Floating above the pit is a giant brick-grey sphere, covered in lapis-blue and gold geometric patterns, like a small moon or a giant egg several km in diameter
Hospital
Richard, Hansa, the Quartet and Fake Assassin vs Jester (we still haven't seen Jester's last body or Richard's last two Rounds, Wilfred and the mysterious 7th)
Tsubaki, Pale Rider (now a lil puny horse) meet Fake Ayaka in the dream underworld
Jester uses his Command Spell to order Fake Assassin to immediately kill Tsubaki (he manages to write out the command in his own blood bc Assassin is gagging him to stop him speaking it) Underground/Greater Grail
Sigma vs Faldeus, his men, and his giant Hydra-puppet made from the Greater Grail's scaffolding
Snowfield's Greater Grail is a giant pit of Grail Mud - if Alcides dies and Gugalanna's immense Divinity (not normally possible in a Holy Grail War) is absorbed into the Greater Grail, bad shitTM will happen - making it powerful enough to grant a wish to destroy the planet itself
Watcher and Sigma conclude that, since the Divinity will go to the Lesser Grail (Philia) first as the middleman, the Prelatis likely intend to steal that Divinity from Philia (after either Alcides or Hippolyta die) and use it to power an illusion strong enough to trick the Greater Grail into becoming a "proper" wish-granter (adding even more credence to Francesca vs El-Melloi Classroom)
Sigma also guesses that Faldeus has a way to safely dispose of the Greater Grail without spilling its Mud and contaminating everything
Essentially there's a little race against time to stop the Greater Grail and the Prelatis before Alcides or Hippolyta dies
City Center Alleyway
Bazdilot vs Clan Calatin (Orlando's katana is super-boosted by Dumas during their last goodbye, so Orlando's set up for his personal NP reveal)
Enkidu is still with Haruri and Huwawa, watching Alter Ego Gil pass by
The Prelatis are still kicking, but it's clear a subtle rift is forming between Francois and Francesca, their goals starting to diverge
Francesca decides she wants the Holy Grail for herself - and either Lesser or Greater is fine with her (implying she's going to be gunning for the El-Melloi Classroom, who still has Philia's body - and thus become their final opponent)Crystal Hill
Tine is left horrified and on the verge of a breakdown at seeing Alter Ego Gil and his pure unbiased brand of ruthlessness - he just casually executed the spies in Tine's subordinates and left the last two (who weren't consenting spies bc they were brainwashed) for her to decide their fates before leaving
(Doris and Silver Wolf are still just vibing up top)
West Snowfield
Alter Ego Gil vs Hippolyta vs Gugalanna-Alcides, Gil manipulates all his scattered NPs into two giant hands as his first attack
The El-Melloi Classroom's big secret planTM - it is revealed the tunnel they dug from the north to reach Ishtar's temple last volume was part of a whole design to turn Snowfield's underground into a giant version of Caules' Primeval Battery, and using it to gather a shitton of magical energy underground for an unknown purpose (it's only half-charged because Alter Ego Gil nicked some of its power in the process, but it's been activated already)
They've recruited both Thia and Dumas for this plan, Dumas being brought over by the remaining members of Clan Calatin (including Vera and John)
Thia will be the one to use and control the battery's energy, in return for being able to retreat from the Holy Grail War entirely
Dumas's job will be to modify Thia directly (in his own words, he's gonna make Thia the star of the show)

TL;DR everything went to absolute shit and will all conclude at once in Volume 10...
 
This is something I've been wondering for a bit, but what are the strongest Servants Chaldea actually has the ability to summon/deploy, no strings attached?
 
This is something I've been wondering for a bit, but what are the strongest Servants Chaldea actually has the ability to summon/deploy, no strings attached?

Ritsuka the Master or Chaldeas with it's resources? The answer for Ritsuka is theoretically of the Servants... as Shadow Servants and only for maybe like a few seconds and not at full power but capable of using their NPs.

For Chaldea with it's resources? All of them at the full power their Saint Graphs is capable of giving them.
It's explicitly stated in LB7 and further confirmed when you go into the 4 Servants they summoned with the help of the Magical Energy Generators in the Storm Border are not only at their 3rd Ascensions(explicitly shown and stated to be their full power) but they even extra skills or otherwise they wouldn't have.

This is a bit more obvious with the Bakin Event where Super Orion was able to dead ass tie Tametomo's BS Arrow despite Tametomo being supported by a Grail and Super Orion just had the maximum amount of Magical Energy to his person.
 
Technically all of them as shadow servants but they are temporary summonings in story

Regular graphs Morgan claims she's roughly 1/3 of her original power
 
There's also Draco who canonically summons herself into Chaldea. She and the other Beasts (and anyone who has Independent Manifestation) should theoretically be able to exert their full power.

That said, they're still Beasts and for the most part are only there because of their specific hang-ups about Ritsuka.

Like Kiara doesn't actually give a shit about humanity, she just wants to watch the dude who beat her struggle with saving humanity.
 
Their power gets limited if they choose to manifest in the current worlds

Of course they can always just, do what they did in the story and get around it by pulling off their usual schemes
 
Yeah, iirc in the Draco event Kama almost goes Beast mode when Ritsuka gets snatched and the Kiara slaps her upside the head and tells her to stop causing problems

And then Draco goes and just summons herself as a Beast because fuck you :skully
 
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