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Basically he spells it out that Sherlock cannot be the traitor by default because he will always align with humanity even if it means doing unscrupulous things ( just because someone is good does not make them just)

he then placed a geass on us as a gamble in case either Sherlock went rogue or things went horribly south but he erased our memory of it
 
Vespa Crabro said:
Basically he spells it out that Sherlock cannot be the traitor by default because he will always align with humanity even if it means doing unscrupulous things ( just because someone is good does not make them just)

he then placed a geass on us as a gamble in case either Sherlock went rogue or things went horribly south but he erased our memory of it
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That makes sense, it also makes sense why Holmes tried to betray the AG on his own terms and then basically sacrificed himself and Young Moriarty.
It probably would lead to a way out for Holmes even then so I can agree with that.
Something I am trying to figure out is... is Young Moriarty really Chaldeas Moriarty or is that a translation flub? Not because it wouldn't make sense(It would still fit with his goals) but more I wonder how did they make him old and he reverted back to his younger form? That seems extremely complex unless they have a way to screw with a Servant's Age.
 
It’s prob a case of
Old moriarty= alien world servant

our moriarty= shinjuku moriarty aka der freischutz

they can share a baseline spirit origin but are probably two different people

if the base is the same then younger moriarty could have memories of his older self possibly or he’s a mishmash of spirit origins
 
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Vespa Crabro said:
It’s prob a case of
Old moriarty= alien world servant

our moriarty= shinjuku moriarty aka der freischutz

they can share a baseline spirit origin but are probably two different people

if the base is the same then younger moriarty could have memories of his older self possibly or he’s a mishmash of spirit origins
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Okay that makes more sense but just like with LB6, we will have to wait a little more for more details to come around and basically when it comes out in NA for complete details.
 
Oh yeah, FYI. Young Moriarty's 3 Divinities are the Norns so basically, he legit is the King Crimson of Fate and part of the reason Holmes sacrificed himself.
Pretty fucking hilarious being able to screw with Fate to get the results he wants.
 
Xhominid The Fool said:
Oh yeah, FYI. Young Moriarty's 3 Divinities are the Norns so basically, he legit is the King Crimson of Fate and part of the reason Holmes sacrificed himself.
Pretty fucking hilarious being able to screw with Fate to get the results he wants.
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It comes with major weakness though, mainly once Holmes out of picture, it loses its effect.
Dunno how it translates when Holmes isn't around
 
Xhominid The Fool said:
Oh yeah, FYI. Young Moriarty's 3 Divinities are the Norns so basically, he legit is the King Crimson of Fate and part of the reason Holmes sacrificed himself.
Pretty fucking hilarious being able to screw with Fate to get the results he wants.
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Yeah holmes' last act is revealing that those are the divinities young moriarty is fused with

That and declaring that chaldea will be victorious in the end
 
Proto234 said:
It comes with major weakness though, mainly once Holmes out of picture, it loses its effect.
Dunno how it translates when Holmes isn't around
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Vespa Crabro said:
Yeah holmes' last act is revealing that those are the divinities young moriarty is fused with

That and declaring that chaldea will be victorious in the end
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It's even funnier that he apparently gets easily trounced after those are out of the way... like GER vs. King Crimson too :oldryoma
 
And we got more shit clarified for the Mecha-Servant:

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So Archer Tametomo is literally mecha, and dude is summoned just to kill Joan from like 20km away with his "arrow" shot from his bow which is basically a huge moonlight cannon. And his ship blowing up feat in the legend is apparently not from him directly aiming at the ship but he was aiming at someone on there and the side effect of blowing that person up is the ship also blown up. Ok dude.

Looks cool tho, he is probably will be a 5 star.
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So Tametomo "arrow" is comparable to an ICBM nuke, and power rivals holy swords from the Age of Gods.

Nippon mecha stronk.
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He stopped that ICBM one with Balmung beam. The next consecutive 3 shots are weaker so he was able to tank them, but still took some dmg.
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>Blew up a ship in the process of killing someone with his "arrow"
>Rivals Holy Swords from the AoG Era
>Siegfried had to use a Balmung blast to stop the same attack and 3 weaker attacks did some actual damage but was still fine.

Ushiwakamaru's Uncle everybody.

And the effect of Don Quixote's NP:

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So Don's NP is based on his charge against the windmill in the story, and has the effect of "returning the target to reality", that is, the countryside of Spain in 17th century where he lived. Using too much will return him there as well (aka he'll vanish). When Vlad was influenced by Moriarty to rebel, he used his stakes to impale himself and hanging there like his victims in the past, but not dead. Don's NP was able to send Vlad to that countryside momentarily where Vlad himself doesn't exist, but also where Moriarty command yet to take place, thus freeing him from it and he's fine. Interesting.
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This is a weird ass Noble Phantasm, even moreso when people confirmed that he was literally one of the Servants in Atlantis who used it to get the hell out of it... and into Traum:

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And Don was the old man saying "I can't do this" in Atlantis, holy shit. He used his NP to escape Atlantis but ended up in this singularity (which is equal to a LB status).
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So Charlie is here because of Karl's request, but he is summoned through the 12 Paladins chain summoning so he is messed up AGAIN, can't use his big stuffs more than twice and will get yeeted after 48 hours. Why is my boi always hook to life support everytime he is summoned...
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Charlemagne will never NOT be nerfed on some major level which is absolutely hilarious
 
Xhominid The Fool said:
And we got more shit clarified for the Mecha-Servant:

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>Blew up a ship in the process of killing someone with his "arrow"
>Rivals Holy Swords from the AoG Era
>Siegfried had to use a Balmung blast to stop the same attack and 3 weaker attacks did some actual damage but was still fine.

Ushiwakamaru's Uncle everybody.

And the effect of Don Quixote's NP:

[FGO JP Main Chapter] 6.5 - Realms of Mortality Incarnate, Traum - Life and Death of a Fantasy - Page 23

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This is a weird ass Noble Phantasm, even moreso when people confirmed that he was literally one of the Servants in Atlantis who used it to get the hell out of it... and into Traum:

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Charlemagne will never NOT be nerfed on some major level which is absolutely hilarious
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Props to Astolfo-chan too, who managed to bypass Tametomo's full power arrow (although spam version managed to overwhelm him a bit) and beating him, Adam- style with Trap of Argalia.
It should be noted that Tametomo managed to double kill him though
 
Proto234 said:
Props to Astolfo-chan too, who managed to bypass Tametomo's full power arrow (although spam version managed to overwhelm him a bit) and beating him, Adam- style with Trap of Argalia.
It should be noted that Tametomo managed to double kill him though
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Speaking of that:


The various scenes of him using his Noble Phantasm. Gotta give more props to Lasengle for really going the Tsukihime Remake Route with these cutscenes now more than ever, really making them look massively impressive now.
 
Random question, but I'm assuming Shirou couldn't hypothetically trace something like a Zanpakutou from Bleach?
Or would that be wrong? :hm

And on that note, where exactly does Shirou sit in terms of strength compared to actual Servants?
 
Paxton said:
Random question, but I'm assuming Shirou couldn't hypothetically trace something like a Zanpakutou from Bleach?
Or would that be wrong? :hm

And on that note, where exactly does Shirou sit in terms of strength compared to actual Servants?
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Zanpakuto's have souls, so probably not.

He's in that weird category of "comparable but lesser" since he's definitely weaker and slower than any of them by himself, but he has to be at least somewhat comparable to have kept up at all.
 
So I was reading up on some vsb pages for Fate characters (specifically Angra Mainyu's), and Vlad apparently stated that the Holy Grail can "incinerate eras"? :hm
That's an interesting thing for him to say if that's true.
 
Could someone give me a run-down on the basic description of each of the Dead Apostle Ancestors?

I didn't want to ask this in the circus thread so as to not clog it up, but a certain someone off-site is trying to claim that the Nasu statement regarding Artoria standing a good chance against "those 27 Apostle Ancestors that overwhelm through material quantity and alienness would be a tough fight for them" refers to all of them and not just Nrvnsqr Chaos.
 
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