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Ratchet said:
I'm not seeing the relevance of this part.
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Because if it’s something someone wouldn’t want to do as scum you can do it with a teammate without it being real.

If I’m scum being able to AtE into a teammate is a good way to fake AtE without the consequences of feeling crappy by actually AtEing. It’s something I’ve daydreamed about in the past being able to do with a teammate as scum (bc I’m prone to blowing up as town but not scum and it would be a good way to mirror that without actually having to blow up on someone).

Ratchet said:
And one of the key tenets is that bussing is almost never worth it.
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But you wouldn’t have really been bussing much because you spent most of the day not actually pushing there. It didn’t start happening until you and he first got into later into the day which would be when it’s pretty clear he’s probably going to be lynched.

Ratchet said:
is getting frustrated about that, and realises that he needs to make a swing for the fences otherwise he isn't going to get out of the day.
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I can see this happening yeah lol

Ratchet said:
this is not how you would want to distance because the goal of this ultimately would be to get Poyser looking better for going after me. Me completely shitting on his push, in that fashion, not only undermines that effort, it puts us perpetually at odds for the rest of the time that we're both in the game.
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I think regardless of your position on him at that point he was probably going to get lynched so you’d be better off looking good off of it and it wouldn’t matter how he’d look. It would be about setting you up and not helping him out

Ratchet said:
That your takeaway is "nothing about this can't be distancing" then I'm pretty happy to just thunder dome with you after Poyser's flip, because I don't believe your town game is so lacking in substance and reason.
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I think you’d be a lot better off just talking me down and soothing me like you always do than attacking me as scum

But it still is most of my takeaway lol
 
Ratchet said:
This is actually the strongest reason I have to maintain a town read on your slot. Because it would support the mindset of growing frustration at his pushes falling off - yours due to emotional manipulation, and well actually, it seemed to come in direct response to the second Miller claim.

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I don’t see how you could have he and I paired whatsoever lol
 
Sparkles said:
Too easy and like all this was done as a framejob.
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Walk me through wolf mindset if this is a frame job then. What are the wolves doing letting Poyser live again? Don't you think the wolves would be thrilled knowing Poyser is a D1 mislynch? Especially with a quick hammer.
 
Ratchet said:
True, but I have further considerations that work against Prof being partnered with him. Namely, for them to be scum together, I don't really see Prof introducing the emotional angle like he did, and also I do think Poyser's rea rion to Orof doing that is to kind of throw his hands up in frustration to being stonewalled for an OGI reason.

For the record I'm starting to think Prof can be some kind of Indie, or otherwise not town that isn't aligned with Poyser. Would explain why I have issues with his posts while having what I feel is enough from the thread to say he isn't scum with him.
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I do think Prof's speculation is a little sloppy today, kinda feels like he wants to keep most options open for who could be bussing Poyser and not just you. It feels like how people are playing around Poyser or vice versa is taking precedent over his actual reads on said players
 
Ultra said:
I do think Prof's speculation is a little sloppy today, kinda feels like he wants to keep most options open for who could be bussing Poyser and not just you. It feels like how people are playing around Poyser or vice versa is taking precedent over his actual reads on said players
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All of it’s with players I don’t have strong feelings on independently
 
Sparkles said:
I have no idea what hunting via abduction even means lol.
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Abductive reasoning, aka identifying the most likely conclusion from a given observation. In a Mafia context, it can often involve working backwards, because you're not verifying any part of your conclusion.
 
GoddessBlade said:
Please. If I was scum my number one order of operations would be bussing my mates and number 2 would be eliminating real threats. Because that would be my best route to earning the coveted Amazon Gift Card
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🤔 interesting i never suggested you where scum tho
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
Because if it’s something someone wouldn’t want to do as scum you can do it with a teammate without it being real.

If I’m scum being able to AtE into a teammate is a good way to fake AtE without the consequences of feeling crappy by actually AtEing. It’s something I’ve daydreamed about in the past being able to do with a teammate as scum (bc I’m prone to blowing up as town but not scum and it would be a good way to mirror that without actually having to blow up on someone).


But you wouldn’t have really been bussing much because you spent most of the day not actually pushing there. It didn’t start happening until you and he first got into later into the day which would be when it’s pretty clear he’s probably going to be lynched.


I can see this happening yeah lol


I think regardless of your position on him at that point he was probably going to get lynched so you’d be better off looking good off of it and it wouldn’t matter how he’d look. It would be about setting you up and not helping him out


I think you’d be a lot better off just talking me down and soothing me like you always do than attacking me as scum

But it still is most of my takeaway lol
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So you've just cut out the part where I explain why my reaction would be beyond distancing and more or less sets him as the lynch for the day, and then you use the absence of that to argue that I would not have to be bussing him.

Is there a good reason for this? Or are you just pretending the bits that aren't convenient for you don't exist and hoping I don't realise lol?
 
Ratchet said:
So you've just cut out the part where I explain why my reaction would be beyond distancing and more or less sets him as the lynch for the day, and then you use the absence of that to argue that I would not have to be bussing him.

Is there a good reason for this? Or are you just pretending the bits that aren't convenient for you don't exist and hoping I don't realise lol?
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I cut out the parts that were completely neutral lol

I don’t think anything I cut out changes the arguments on it
 
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