I just told you what he could have done - basically anything that shows genuine follow through as opposed to what he actually did in asking the audience permission to push me
No it doesn't. Actually it looks like he hasn't thought enough, because all he can point to in defence of his position are shallow, relatively vapid statements where he says X could mean Y without any supporting work to show why that could be the case over, X meaning Z, say. That's literally the point I'm making - his reasoning does not adequately justify his position to me, which is what gives me the impression that his "paranoia" is more for show than it is genuine.Issue I have with Ratchet‘s reaction is that he made pretty much the same read on Prof I have and he knows he can overthink a lot. That post looks more like overthinking than him trying to shade Ratchet as well.
Okay so now I have serious concerns, because as you will be aware, I've already made several arguments for why Prof isn't aligned with Poyser and why I think he could be Indie. So you're saying that my conclusion has merit, but youre also trying to say that my points lend credence to me being scum with Poyser? It's not good.I‘d also have to reconcile him being scum with Poyser for Ratchet‘s angle to make sense there which doesn’t make much sense for me. If anything Prof would be an Indie I feel.
Its an example im looking for
Youre answering in the general when i want something in the specific, because then i can take that specific and consider how likely it is to be true. When you say 'anything thst looks genuine' its like 'no shit', but i need to know what that is from your pov
You are aware that I‘m not in your scum chat from Dune or know why you bussed him in the first place and to me it looked like you did it for no reason. I haven’t read post game either. Bad reaction.So several things wrong with this. First, the takeaway that I "bussed Fang for no reason" is a complete misrepresentation, I would go as far as to say a complete fabrication actually, of how it actually transpired. You also wilfully ignore the actual issue I presented with Prof- that his paranoia came across as ingenuine. Prof knows that, as Town, he is expected to be paranoid of my slot to a point. There is always a logical reason underpinning this, because Prof is a logical player. Here, I found his paranoia to be more akin to trying to play into expectations people would have of him, as opposed to something he actually believes, because his reasoning lacks some basic considerations that I would expect of him.
Lastly, Melkor raised the anti bussing thing because he didn't understand that I qualified my statement as "in this format". Thus, using a game that explicitly wasn't under this format (unranked heavy role madness, to be clear) is irrelevant to the comment I made. (This is also addressing what you said @Lord Melkor)
Now, I can reconcile Melkor missing this. But you only commented on the post off the back of what Melkor said, so I would assume as Town you would be reading the context, and as a result, you have no excuse.
I'm going to need an explanation for all three points Flower, because it's difficult for me to reconcile this as genuine.
I mean, I think Ultra is very stubborn as tiw and does not change course easily, I said this ti him last game in the dead chat, so my answer would be, probably not much. Would require Poyser to be very transparently town I think for him to overlook what he was onto early.
Also as a wider note, your insistence on calling your interlocutors dumb or illiterate is pretty unbecoming, you can address them with more respect. I suggest you do so.What? Town Prof focuses on the people I mentioned. And he did it when I made my initial read. And his focus on Ratchet and tinfoiling him is also something he does as Town. Am I speaking Chinese or something? You seemingly don’t understand a single point I make today.
Trying to resolve his suspicions through direct questioning of his suspects to start. You know his usual "huh? Wot did u say govna??" Inquiry process instead of prioritizing the optics of how he would look or what other players would think
How do I know what you've read? I haven't been monitoring the chats. But here is the problem - you had no issues claiming that I had bussed him for no reason, because it suited the angle you wanted. But here, you defend your position with ignorance, so then I have to ask - why did you originally claim I had bussed him for no reason. When have you ever seen me as scum do anything "for no reason"?You are aware that I‘m not in your scum chat from Dune or know why you bussed him in the first place and to me it looked like you did it for no reason. I haven’t read post game either. Bad reaction.
False. I said earlier in the game that Prof had a lack of paranoia, and his response was "I am paranoid, but I think Poyser is more likely scum and I don't think you're aligned". He was even saying a Poyser scum flip would give him confidence to unconditionally sheep. Now he's making a point to lean into paranoia, my argument is that this aspect is not genuine, and your argument's premise holds no water.Then the leaning into stuff, Prof did the things which lead to both you and me giving him that read without people mentioning what to expect. And if he‘s aware of his play to the extent that he knows to lean into it he would have done so from the start. You‘d have to assume that at one point somebody told him how to act and that he was coached into that. Doesn’t seem very likely tho. It felt natural to me
It's really not though. I have, very very rarely if at all, bussed in games when I've been scum with Fuji. And the reason for that is very simple - if I bus, another scum faction or entity is likely to kill me, or I'm otherwise going to have no reason to justify my survival. Because scum tend to have powerful abilities, especially after about 3 cycles, to remove threats when they need to. It's much more useful to be in the town side of the PoE and oush what I want from there.The in this format thing is pure nonsense. You have bussed in games since 2021.
Ok mostly sorta caught up. Time for me to lock in for this unranked game
Vote Lynch Poyser
Ok mostly sorta caught up. Time for me to lock in for this unranked game
Vote Lynch Poyser
I feel like you haven't read the exchange at all here
If he says he doesn't know where the chat came from then why are you assuming he's a neighbour? Thats usually an active role that you have to target. This seems more like masons in execution except neither of them seem to be aware of them being masons so idk
Is this you saying you've been reading the thread? If so then your opening has been distinctly unimpressive
Is this supposed to get her to town read you lmao
i was kind of thinking the opposite, his reply to yoho voting prof is
why do you think he looks town?
The bottom here reads like he is just saying it because that's how he wants flower to treat it
Such as with what? Find this a bit odd considering your first angle of the game was pushing X similarly to one of the first pushes I made!
I can understand Ultra's PoV. Hs spent a lot if ti e arguing with Town Poyser last game, so his town game will be very familiar with him. When he sees what he feels is a notable departure, even if not all that compelling an angle for anyone else, I could see him being very headstrong. Woukd argue that him looking for Poyser to react is him doing his due diligence in terms of stress testing his opinion.And this is my problem, because i dont think that something is strong enough to merit what followed.
Aware im pushing piss uphill here but im not ready to just assume Ultra is town, and i think his answers to my other questions leave a lot to be desired
I can understand Ultra's PoV. Hs spent a lot if ti e arguing with Town Poyser last game, so his town game will be very familiar with him. When he sees what he feels is a notable departure, even if not all that compelling an angle for anyone else, I could see him being very headstrong. Woukd argue that him looking for Poyser to react is him doing his due diligence in terms of stress testing his opinion.
I don understand your argument and I don't think its wholly without merit, I'm just not seeing an angle here where they ever fit as scum together and, by and large, I feel pretty good that he's town. Not, certain, but pretty good.
Actually it might not have been Poyser, it might have been Pqwerty. But the point remains."I am paranoid, but I think Poyser is more likely scum and I don't think you're aligned".
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