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Grammaton
Dr_Professor83
Dr. Watson
Ratchet
Sparkles
Sharter Holmes
Chuck

Alexis2282AE
Luka
GoddessBlade
Yoho
Flower

RDK
Pot Goblin
Ultra

Lord Melkor
The X
MangoSenpai
Poyser
Cataclysm
Lethal
Pqwerty
.guillo
Kurosaki Ichigo


Green - Town read
Blue - Can see as Town, but not strong enough to read them so fully
Orange - Can't see as town, but does't quite fit as scum as nicely as I'd like
Red - Scum

So my thought here really is that most scum are in blue which requires me to really cross-examine my reasoning for each of them.

Prof - I've outlined my considerations here. And I do think Gram's point has merit, his voting RDK, which logically sound, I can see as being positionally safe.

GB - Seemed to have hinted mech at having targeted Poyser. That's enough for a slight town, but not enough to go for it. Otherwise, not much to note for this slot.

Yoho - Hard to read, think he has been okay but I'd need something more compelling to put him town. Would probably say he's on the better side of the blue reads.

Flower - I've wanted to town read her slot, but there is just too much I find objectionable to ignore. I don't love Melkor's static read of her either, but would say if he's scum, she actually is more likely town.

Mango - Generally think he's town, but he's dropped off, and his focus has been too much on Sparkles for my liking. Also think he's struggled to talk about anything relevant today. That said, his town read on Pot is a pretty good sign for him, I guess. That's not a slot I see scum Mango stretching to read.

Lethal - Magic was largely inactive, Lethal is largely inactive. Would say Magic's vote on Poyser looks decent, but unless Poyser flips exactly Mafia, it doesn't really move the scales (his vote being Magic's day 1).

Pqwerty - Another slot I want to town read but I just can't. I need to see the flavour angle and his solving, while certainly there in volume isn't all that nuanced or in depth. Also don't like how cagey he is or why he can talk with the dead.

.guillo - Haven't had serious issue with his posts, but that's why he's blue. Think him getting off Ultra when he did looks pretty good.

Ichigo - Mostly off the back of guillo's read.

And then we have Melkor and Alexis on top of that. I'm not loving where my solve is at here.
 
So you've just cut out the part where I explain why my reaction would be beyond distancing and more or less sets him as the lynch for the day, and then you use the absence of that to argue that I would not have to be bussing him.

Is there a good reason for this? Or are you just pretending the bits that aren't convenient for you don't exist and hoping I don't realise lol?

Yes to both lol

I cut out the parts that were completely neutral lol

I don’t think anything I cut out changes the arguments on it

Okay well read your posts and that's my argument as to why you're scum with him. See how that works? Should tell you all you need to know about your current arguments.

It does - you argued in an earlier part of the post that I wouldn't have ti be bussing, and then followed up with a later part saying okay it would be bussing but it would be to get me cred because his survival was shot anyway (which is a silly statement by itself given who was involved). I can't possibly consider this any anything higher that bad faith dross, Prof. I suggest you come back with sounder reasoning.

I can use my duel ability now

Use it on Poyser please.

Worth it?


aight

sent

Okay well you can argue that bussing doesn't mean bussing if you want, but the goal and MO is to keep my team alive. Poyser, POYSER, was not doomed with 6 votes 12 or so hours into Day 1. That's a ridiculous argument that cannot be a real thought. It just can't be. The goal behind him going at me would be to make him look better, not for me to rug pull him and make him look worse.

In fact if you genuinely believe this then I'm going to insist that we thunder dome as soon as Watson gets her duel in because I will never ever read this as anything other than bad faith BS. Think I've read enough.

Vote: Dr_Professor83

I can't say with complete confidence that you're not town but I can say that I will never ever read this as town reasoning and my patience with your slot has worn out.
It was after the Duel, so the argument that only you were getting lynched and there was no danger doesn‘t hold.
 
Not to mention the build up to the vote is just never teamed. It looked like Ratchet losing patience at that point. If Prof is scum somehow I would straight up clear Ratchet.
 
It was after the Duel, so the argument that only you were getting lynched and there was no danger doesn‘t hold.
Lmao this is so stupid. You clearly show they started it before the duel. He obviously can’t immediately drop it without working himself there :bosque1: Terrible
 
It was after the Duel, so the argument that only you were getting lynched and there was no danger doesn‘t hold.
I'd rather you focus on something else than Poyser's arguments when he's not even trying to verify the legitimacy of them. He did the same thing with Sparkles saying I was employing some sort of "porcupine defence" towrds her earlier, a position that she later admitted was conflated from her own point of view, and thus, Poyser has no reason to believe it. There is 0 value in engaging scum.
 
I'd rather you focus on something else than Poyser's arguments when he's not even trying to verify the legitimacy of them. He did the same thing with Sparkles saying I was employing some sort of "porcupine defence" towrds her earlier, a position that she later admitted was conflated from her own point of view, and thus, Poyser has no reason to believe it. There is 0 value in engaging scum.
I keep forgetting that he‘s outed honestly.

Still, looking at equity is good anyhow.
 
Grammaton
Dr_Professor83
Dr. Watson
Ratchet
Sparkles
Sharter Holmes
Chuck

Alexis2282AE
Luka
GoddessBlade
Yoho
Flower

RDK
Pot Goblin
Ultra

Lord Melkor
The X
MangoSenpai
Poyser
Cataclysm
Lethal
Pqwerty
.guillo
Kurosaki Ichigo


Green - Town read
Blue - Can see as Town, but not strong enough to read them so fully
Orange - Can't see as town, but does't quite fit as scum as nicely as I'd like
Red - Scum

So my thought here really is that most scum are in blue which requires me to really cross-examine my reasoning for each of them.

Prof - I've outlined my considerations here. And I do think Gram's point has merit, his voting RDK, which logically sound, I can see as being positionally safe.

GB - Seemed to have hinted mech at having targeted Poyser. That's enough for a slight town, but not enough to go for it. Otherwise, not much to note for this slot.

Yoho - Hard to read, think he has been okay but I'd need something more compelling to put him town. Would probably say he's on the better side of the blue reads.

Flower - I've wanted to town read her slot, but there is just too much I find objectionable to ignore. I don't love Melkor's static read of her either, but would say if he's scum, she actually is more likely town.

Mango - Generally think he's town, but he's dropped off, and his focus has been too much on Sparkles for my liking. Also think he's struggled to talk about anything relevant today. That said, his town read on Pot is a pretty good sign for him, I guess. That's not a slot I see scum Mango stretching to read.

Lethal - Magic was largely inactive, Lethal is largely inactive. Would say Magic's vote on Poyser looks decent, but unless Poyser flips exactly Mafia, it doesn't really move the scales (his vote being Magic's day 1).

Pqwerty - Another slot I want to town read but I just can't. I need to see the flavour angle and his solving, while certainly there in volume isn't all that nuanced or in depth. Also don't like how cagey he is or why he can talk with the dead.

.guillo - Haven't had serious issue with his posts, but that's why he's blue. Think him getting off Ultra when he did looks pretty good.

Ichigo - Mostly off the back of guillo's read.

And then we have Melkor and Alexis on top of that. I'm not loving where my solve is at here.
How many mafia members can be in this game?
 
Yeah, I‘m fairly confident Ichigo and Poyser aren’t teamed ever. The way he treated him was how he treated Sky in The Boys. It‘s a LHF slot that could serve as mislynch bait.
 
I don't even scum read Flower, I'm asking how, in your view, I'm somehow worse for getting into it with Flower when she's trended down the most. If I'm to understand your read on me as "I think Ratchet is town but I can't quite shake this feeling about it" then I would think seeing me go after an avenue that you also think has looked worse actually furthers that "bad feeling" you have, instead of it going in the opposite direction. I'm not saying this can't be real, I am asking how you got to there.
I need some flips to let my brain cool off.
 
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