Game Warcraft 3: The Full Story

[Ratchet]

I don’t consider bussing after the person is pretty much doomed the same thing.

And I still think that would be a good time to position yourself better without the usual downside of bussing

You’re not going to get any other reasoning because it’s just what I think lol. I can only promise you it’s in good faith lol

Okay well you can argue that bussing doesn't mean bussing if you want, but the goal and MO is to keep my team alive. Poyser, POYSER, was not doomed with 6 votes 12 or so hours into Day 1. That's a ridiculous argument that cannot be a real thought. It just can't be. The goal behind him going at me would be to make him look better, not for me to rug pull him and make him look worse.

In fact if you genuinely believe this then I'm going to insist that we thunder dome as soon as Watson gets her duel in because I will never ever read this as anything other than bad faith BS. Think I've read enough.

Vote: Dr_Professor83

I can't say with complete confidence that you're not town but I can say that I will never ever read this as town reasoning and my patience with your slot has worn out.

 

[Dr. Watson]

don't think fuji is on but i sent in the action

 

[The X]

@Sparkles you need to hold Flower accountable if her activity slips. She's entering legit ghost writer territory here.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Nope, you've also considered Melkor and Magic

There’s nothing else to read Magic off of lol.

Melkor I think is more likely town in a vacuum but Luka brought up an angle on him about his posts around Posyer which is the main reason I mentioned him. I asked you about Melkor bc I think you have a better bead on him than both to access it

 

[Ratchet]

Probably can't forget about Watson here. She's likely just wolf.

I don't think so to be honest. Based on what little I've seen I would say she's town actually.

 

[Sparkles]

Walk me through wolf mindset if this is a frame job then. What are the wolves doing letting Poyser live again? Don't you think the wolves would be thrilled knowing Poyser is a D1 mislynch? Especially with a quick hammer.

Well in fairness that's true, and probably better than making town waste another day doing it again. But like it would be a very WIFOM play, cause for most it would all but incriminate him, which lets scum work around day 2 knowing who town will eventually yeet. Gives them 2 nights to use roles to fuck with us knowing they wasted the first two days misyeeting a good town player and drawing conclusions from his scum flip on day 2 and not what would be a town flip if not for their involvement. I feel like it would make more sense if they had a governor that couldn't stop a yeet on one of their own tbf. But even if they can use it on themselves, using it to save mafia probably just delays the inevitable as we're seeing here today already. I think best play from mafia would be if it was someone uninvolved with the push to make the pursuers me/ultra look bad and again have town likely come after us D3. If that's the case then why kill Ekko? I guess best guess there would be why not?

Abductive reasoning, aka identifying the most likely conclusion from a given observation. In a Mafia context, it can often involve working backwards, because you're not verifying any part of your conclusion.

tbh i think that's mostly how i operate, i rarely check other games unless i want to be sure about something and mostly just go off my recollection.

It's possible.

Explains the indy feel from those of you familiar with his scum game seem to be having.

 

[Cataclysm]

Look away for a few minutes and come back to ten plus pages to read through XD

 

[Dr. Watson]

I don't think so to be honest. Based on what little I've seen I would say she's town actually.

hmmmm. what.

 

[Ratchet]

Guillo, Luka, and Ratchet aren’t 80% of the wagon lol

You haven't even given a read on me. You're just "theorising" while not actually going anywhere with it. Pony up, let's go.

 

[Ratchet]

hmmmm. what.

I said I think you're more likely town than scum. If I'm wrong, let me know!

 

[Ultra]

There’s nothing else to read Magic off of lol.

Melkor I think is more likely town in a vacuum but Luka brought up an angle on him about his posts around Posyer which is the main reason I mentioned him. I asked you about Melkor bc I think you have a better bead on him than both to access it

Who is left that could be credited for Poyser that you haven't considered?

 

[Yoho]

How much of my posts have you read? Because I've given reads on lots more slots than 3.

Hmm lemme read back maybe I miss em, those 3 just seemed the primary focus (which isn't necessarily bad)

 

[Ratchet]

Okay well you can argue that bussing doesn't mean bussing if you want, but the goal and MO is to keep my team alive. Poyser, POYSER, was not doomed with 6 votes 12 or so hours into Day 1. That's a ridiculous argument that cannot be a real thought. It just can't be. The goal behind him going at me would be to make him look better, not for me to rug pull him and make him look worse.

In fact if you genuinely believe this then I'm going to insist that we thunder dome as soon as Watson gets her duel in because I will never ever read this as anything other than bad faith BS. Think I've read enough.

Vote: Dr_Professor83

I can't say with complete confidence that you're not town but I can say that I will never ever read this as town reasoning and my patience with your slot has worn out.

Also neglects to consider that I was pushing for him to be lynched quickly instead of taking the reasonable route of "give him time" to see if he can get himself back into the game, which I would have no reason not to do as his scummy buddy.

Again how this is getting missed is beyond me.

 

[Ultra]

Also not sure if you asked me about Melkor because you respect my read on him. I kinda feel like you know how I'd answer that question, have I ever town read Melkor in my entire life?

 

[Ratchet]

Hmm lemme read back maybe I miss em, those 3 just seemed the primary focus (which isn't necessarily bad)

You're changing your argument - there is a difference between primary focus and solitary focus.

 

[The X]

don't think fuji is on but i sent in the action

How about some reads?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Okay well you can argue that bussing doesn't mean bussing if you want, but the goal and MO is to keep my team alive. Poyser, POYSER, was not doomed with 6 votes 12 or so hours into Day 1. That's a ridiculous argument that cannot be a real thought. It just can't be. The goal behind him going at me would be to make him look better, not for me to rug pull him and make him look worse.

In fact if you genuinely believe this then I'm going to insist that we thunder dome as soon as Watson gets her duel in because I will never ever read this as anything other than bad faith BS. Think I've read enough.

Vote: Dr_Professor83

I can't say with complete confidence that you're not town but I can say that I will never ever read this as town reasoning and my patience with your slot has worn out.

You’re asking me to walk something back I really think so I’m not going to do it lol.

I don’t actually believe the argument itself is factual but I believe all of the logic behind it

For most of the day it felt like most were set on Posyer and everything else was kicking other cans to see what would shake out

 

[The X]

I don't think so to be honest. Based on what little I've seen I would say she's town actually.

Why is that?

 

[Ultra]

don't think fuji is on but i sent in the action

Watson you killed him without hesitation. Did you consider his feelings?

 

[The X]

Ratchet, while you're at it, what are you two biggest agree and disagrees with my reads?

@Dr_Professor83 you too, please.