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Flower said:
1) You mentioned that your stuff was locked/conditional, so I thought I wouldn’t mess with anything.
2) You were a good kill choice to avoid protection/Watcher if Town.
3) If you’re scum your standing is so good that you don’t have to fear to get tracked or smth so would likely risk making the kill.

Seemed win win. Was considering Gad, too, but in case Sparks checked him I would have made it fail which would be bad.
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So you opted to just leave me in limbo when I'm one of your bigger pushes?
 
Alexis2282AE said:
Edited to add to Cataclysm's section.

Claims​

1. Grammaton: No claim. Jailed N3 by Flower.
2. Dr_Professor83: Antonidas. Dodges the first harmful action, vote cannot be tampered with. 3x Roleblocker. Blocked Pqwerty N1. Blocked me N2.
3. One Last Username: Duelist. Dueled Poyser D2.
4. Ratchet: Cairne Bloodhoof. Neighbor with Pqwerty.
5. Sparkles: Can't be culted or join chats. Can't be redirected. Cult Desperado - Can submit a name; if it's the Cult Leader (Kel'Thuzad), they die. Targeted Magic (subbed out for Lethal) N1 and Ratchet N2.
6. Sharter Holmes: No claim.
7. Alexis2282AE: One-shot ability to target two players and force them to target each other (used N1; targeted Ekko and Poyser). Each night, I can target a player to amplify their abilities. Targeted Flower N2, and Cataclysm N3.
8. Luka: No claim.
9. GoddessBlade: Cult Preventer (prevents a player from being converted). Locked ability and a passive (unclaimed). Targeted Ultra D2.
10. Yoho: x2 voter. x1 can set traps (used). Can destroy abilities. Attempted to destroy one of Poyser's passives N1. Set a trap on Ultra to detect visitors N2 (no result).
11. Flower: Rexxar. Loner: Can't receive Neighbor chats. Survivalist: Immune to delayed kills. Misha Charge: 1x Jailer. Spirit Hawk Scout: 1x Cop, usable N3+, used on N3 to cop OLU as guilty. Jailed Watson N2, investigated OLU N3. Jailed Grammaton N3.
12. RDK: Sylvanas Windrunner. Miller (investigation-immune). Uncultable.
13. Pot Goblin: No claim.
14. Lord Melkor: Anasterian Sunstrider. 2x one-shot abilities and a passive. Amplifies a player's ability (Royal Decree), can make an action unstoppable, 1x protection (usable from N3+) used on N3. Used Royal Decree on X N3 to make his action unstoppable. Protected X, Sparkles, and Cataclysm N3.
15. The X: Cop, has restriction of not using cop ability with other abilities. Investigated Chuck N1 (delayed result), Yoho N2 (failed).
16. MangoSenpai: Arthas Menethil (pre-culling of Stratholme). Doctor). Protected Ratchet N2.
17. Cataclysm: Medivh. Rolecrushed. Passive: Prophetic insight (start of game census). Passive: Scans guilty to investigations (Miller). Active: Watcher. Watched Poyser N1 (claims Poyser, Guillo, Alexis, Kurosaki Ichigo and Yoho visited him), and Ultra N2. Got no results for Ultra.
18. Magic (Replaced by Lethal): No claim.
19. Pqwerty: Claims to be able to communicate with the dead (starting N2). Post restricted: Can't post text, uses emojis.
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Uh oh..

A claims list..

Alexis, you're scum aren't you
 
The X said:
As long as you agree that if we lynch OLU this day we go after her next day.
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Oh I have no defence for her if OLU flips town, by her own logic her investigation should be reliable. And frankly if you tell me that you absolutely insist on lynching her today, I wouldn't push back against it that much because it's like for like. Just makes more sense to me that she's the townie in the equation. If she is scum I give up on trying to make sense of what people are doing in this game.
 
So to summarize:

Cata watched me.
Alexis made Cata unredirectable. An amp does not bypass protection, so Charlie didn’t use his protect on me. That’s confirmed.

So either he used Poyser‘s Active Disable or his Bus Drive on me since I can exclude the Redirect as my action didn’t fail.

In the former case I didn’t jail Gram as that’s what got disabled since my Cop worked (@Grammaton if you can somehow confirm if you were jailed/blocked or not would be good).

In the latter case my result is reliable since the Bus Drive would have been on myself and I would have gotten an Innocent.
 
Flower said:
Good thing is while the Charlie visit doesn’t clear me 100% since Bus Drive is still possible it makes my result more reliable in that case which is good.
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But if Charlie targeted you with redirect, doesn't that mean your result on OLU isn't right?
 
The X said:
But if Charlie targeted you with redirect, doesn't that mean your result on OLU isn't right?
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Again. I used the Jail the same night and it would have been on the same player I Copped and in that case an Action Failed.
 
Alexis2282AE said:
Edited to add to Cataclysm's section.

Claims​

1. Grammaton: No claim. Jailed N3 by Flower.
2. Dr_Professor83: Antonidas. Dodges the first harmful action, vote cannot be tampered with. 3x Roleblocker. Blocked Pqwerty N1. Blocked me N2.
3. One Last Username: Duelist. Dueled Poyser D2.
4. Ratchet: Cairne Bloodhoof. Neighbor with Pqwerty.
5. Sparkles: Can't be culted or join chats. Can't be redirected. Cult Desperado - Can submit a name; if it's the Cult Leader (Kel'Thuzad), they die. Targeted Magic (subbed out for Lethal) N1 and Ratchet N2.
6. Sharter Holmes: No claim.
7. Alexis2282AE: One-shot ability to target two players and force them to target each other (used N1; targeted Ekko and Poyser). Each night, I can target a player to amplify their abilities. Targeted Flower N2, and Cataclysm N3.
8. Luka: No claim.
9. GoddessBlade: Cult Preventer (prevents a player from being converted). Locked ability and a passive (unclaimed). Targeted Ultra D2.
10. Yoho: x2 voter. x1 can set traps (used). Can destroy abilities. Attempted to destroy one of Poyser's passives N1. Set a trap on Ultra to detect visitors N2 (no result).
11. Flower: Rexxar. Loner: Can't receive Neighbor chats. Survivalist: Immune to delayed kills. Misha Charge: 1x Jailer. Spirit Hawk Scout: 1x Cop, usable N3+, used on N3 to cop OLU as guilty. Jailed Watson N2, investigated OLU N3. Jailed Grammaton N3.
12. RDK: Sylvanas Windrunner. Miller (investigation-immune). Uncultable.
13. Pot Goblin: No claim.
14. Lord Melkor: Anasterian Sunstrider. 2x one-shot abilities and a passive. Amplifies a player's ability (Royal Decree), can make an action unstoppable, 1x protection (usable from N3+) used on N3. Used Royal Decree on X N3 to make his action unstoppable. Protected X, Sparkles, and Cataclysm N3.
15. The X: Cop, has restriction of not using cop ability with other abilities. Investigated Chuck N1 (delayed result), Yoho N2 (failed).
16. MangoSenpai: Arthas Menethil (pre-culling of Stratholme). Doctor). Protected Ratchet N2.
17. Cataclysm: Medivh. Rolecrushed. Passive: Prophetic insight (start of game census). Passive: Scans guilty to investigations (Miller). Active: Watcher. Watched Poyser N1 (claims Poyser, Guillo, Alexis, Kurosaki Ichigo and Yoho visited him), and Ultra N2. Got no results for Ultra.
18. Magic (Replaced by Lethal): No claim.
19. Pqwerty: Claims to be able to communicate with the dead (starting N2). Post restricted: Can't post text, uses emojis.
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I will say this is the first useful thing you've done this game, so I'll give you credit for it.
 
The X said:
There's probably too many protects in the game.

What's your opinion on Chuck visiting Flower?
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I think one of Posyer’s abilities, either the disable or the bus drive make the most sense based on the results around it

If OLU is scum then I’m going to go with the former. If he flips town then I’m willing to believe the later lol.

But I think her thinking she can get away with faking a guilty on OLU is unlikely. We’ll see what he flips lol
 
MangoSenpai said:
@Ratchet
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I dunno why you're even tagging me to be honest, I take your claim. Just saying that with you not claiming target earlier it hurts the evidence because you can really claim whatever you want now regardless. The rest is just PoE, by your own admission you've dropped off a cliff so I'm always going to read that unfavourably given the gamestate.
 
Ratchet said:
Oh I have no defence for her if OLU flips town, by her own logic her investigation should be reliable. And frankly if you tell me that you absolutely insist on lynching her today, I wouldn't push back against it that much because it's like for like. Just makes more sense to me that she's the townie in the equation. If she is scum I give up on trying to make sense of what people are doing in this game.
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I'll say my gut tells me we're walking into a mislynch with OLU, but I will support it and think it is probably the best path to take in order to get answers and resolve a few things. Looks like we're in a similar situation with the Poyser flip and hoping OLU flips wolf so we can keep moving forward and to not make things super messy!
 
Ratchet said:
I dunno why you're even tagging me to be honest, I take your claim. Just saying that with you not claiming target earlier it hurts the evidence because you can really claim whatever you want now regardless. The rest is just PoE, by your own admission you've dropped off a cliff so I'm always going to read that unfavourably given the gamestate.
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This was from Last day man, while I may not have uttered his name conretely, I did heavily imply I'd go along with Dest's plans.
 
Ratchet, I really do hope we're both town and have worked through the doubts and disagreements we might have had in order to still work together and bring home that dub.
 
The X said:
I'll say my gut tells me we're walking into a mislynch with OLU, but I will support it and think it is probably the best path to take in order to get answers and resolve a few things. Looks like we're in a similar situation with the Poyser flip and hoping OLU flips wolf so we can keep moving forward and to not make things super messy!
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I don't even think a town OLU flip makes it that messy, with 3 scum left we can assume that they're all mostly PoE'd out if Flower is pulling a gambit like this. With you/Prof/Sparkles narrowing the scum/cult poe (you with cop, prof with block, sparkles with cult cop) we should be fine from here regardless. The tricky part will be finding the recruited players but I'm not thinking about that yet.
 
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