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What are the worst Retcons in fiction
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I honestly think we kinda dodged a bullet with eu star wars not being canon to disney
disney has proven itself to be so short sighted and unimaginative that it's kinda lucky the old stuff isn't tainted by it
Yes, let's *reads notes* banish the hero who saved all of our lives and who is giving us the ability to choose our own destiny.
All this time waiting for the expansion that was promised in Re-Reckoning, and it was hot garbage.
All this time waiting for the expansion that was promised in Re-Reckoning, and it was hot garbage.
so these cool little robot insect brainwasher dudes were the first real villain in the series, they look cool, it was a mysterious arc that wouldn't really make sense for many many years. Lot of nostalgia around them
randomly, Greg Farshety says "they are made from the corpses of light matoran and any time one dies it is teleported to be turned into a Bohrok"
wh-why? what? why would you do this?
he would eventually start giving a lot of things really boring overly scifi explanations as the series wound down, which I also didn't like, but this was by far the most obtuse
That would only be the case of The Hmer was the source. It was not and never was.
You talking about mastermind the computer?
him admitting he was a liar and coward in dressrosa and then turning around trying to fight Trebol and Sugar on his own knowing full well he could die is peak though
and it's a much more organic form of character development for him imo
While this is true, and he is still the 4th and only SH to develop haki. It's still a recycled plotline .
idk, all his other brave moments besides sogeking were basically by accident from Arlong Park onwards, this is one of the only times we really see him completely walk towards death's door because it was the right thing to do
course im biased bc the whole course of events from there is maybe my favorite moment in the series
Didn’t he literally forget he was Sogeking and Robin’s entire existence because of Sugar?
he forgot about robin temporarily, I don't think he ever forgot he was sogeking though
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The Infinity Gauntlet going from being the chad Jim Starlin era nigh-omnipotent weapon that can easily solo all of the Celestials and most of the Abstract beings at the same time and nearly causing a collapse in the entire Multiverse's reality when flexing it's power with the only weakness being the erosion of the wearer's sanity as they adjust to godhood -> to being the current virgin Hickman era Gauntlet that has less power output than a run of the mill celestial, will kill itself from the strain of trying to stop an incursion and doesn't even work outside of it's own universe.
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Or replace a beloved character with woke nonsense.Marvel in a nutshell
Get a character or weapon and just nerf it as much as you can
Oh boy I got a few from Naruto/Boruto:
1. Kaguya/Black Zetsu being the true Big Bads the entire time:
Basically removes Madara from play(because god forbid the Uchiha Villain you constantly wanked actually loses), has virtually zero real connection with the series and gets removed from the story just as quickly. And that's not forgetting the fact her existence directly leads too...
2. The Death of Kurama:
Yeah he probably isn't permanently dead but how the fuck does this happen? Baryon Mode, a suddenly pulled out of Kishimoto's ass a new "super mode" which it's literal explanation comes off similarly to how Bijuudama are made but suddenly just kills Kurama, despite the entire point of the Seals onto the Jinchikurri is that they are a literal prison for the Bijuu and such an ability should absolutely kill the user.
It's existence is literally just to further weaken Naruto for the hell of it so that Boruto and Kawaki can further carry the story.
3. MACHINE UPRISING!!!:
You all know this bullshit so I won't go too deep into this... so let's really think this through:
In 10+ years, we have somehow went from Bijuu basically being seen as the equivalent to Nuclear Bombs, the Jyuubi being the strongest force we've ever seen and the Eight Gates... to suddenly some random fucking Androids are COMPLETELY SUPERIOR to most of that created from some random fucking scientist in a random ass cave.
This literally makes Dr. Gero being able to create the Cyborgs/Androids and Cell and making them superior to freaking Super Saiyans look good by comparison.
1. Kaguya/Black Zetsu being the true Big Bads the entire time:
Basically removes Madara from play(because god forbid the Uchiha Villain you constantly wanked actually loses), has virtually zero real connection with the series and gets removed from the story just as quickly. And that's not forgetting the fact her existence directly leads too...
2. The Death of Kurama:
Yeah he probably isn't permanently dead but how the fuck does this happen? Baryon Mode, a suddenly pulled out of Kishimoto's ass a new "super mode" which it's literal explanation comes off similarly to how Bijuudama are made but suddenly just kills Kurama, despite the entire point of the Seals onto the Jinchikurri is that they are a literal prison for the Bijuu and such an ability should absolutely kill the user.
It's existence is literally just to further weaken Naruto for the hell of it so that Boruto and Kawaki can further carry the story.
3. MACHINE UPRISING!!!:
You all know this bullshit so I won't go too deep into this... so let's really think this through:
In 10+ years, we have somehow went from Bijuu basically being seen as the equivalent to Nuclear Bombs, the Jyuubi being the strongest force we've ever seen and the Eight Gates... to suddenly some random fucking Androids are COMPLETELY SUPERIOR to most of that created from some random fucking scientist in a random ass cave.
This literally makes Dr. Gero being able to create the Cyborgs/Androids and Cell and making them superior to freaking Super Saiyans look good by comparison.
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Kishi loves his Toriyoma tropes right down to Sasuke being the Piccolo babysitter and raising Boruto in place of his daddy
I actually prefer Ragnarok’s version better. Mjolnir was training wheels for him, he can’t use his power without it pre-Ragnarok