Except Magic Gods clearly surviving everything destroyed including the Pure World in NT9We have no reason to believe ANYTHING is an exemption from Coronzon's ceremony.
The only thing that would "survive" it is Ein Sof, the being who actually created existence in the first place, but they're hardly a character in the first place.
Yup, with you being proven wrong every timeLiterally nothing in those quotes proves it's anything but the surface world being affected, except for willful misinterpretation of what "world" or "everything" is referring to in that context.
We've done this same song and dance before.
Othinus and Kamijou Touma had been wrong about one thing.
They had thought that world of darkness had been the full extent of the world. They had assumed that pitch black despair had been the product of destroying everything and leaving nothing at all behind.
But in truth, there had been one more layer. It was as uniform as a thin membrane, it had not even the slightest seam, and it could not be detected or destroyed by anyone, but one last phase had existed.
This black world was the place not even Magic God Othinus had been able to destroy.
I dont need to impress you I just need you to not downplay what is happening to mere "magic missles"And? If your just going to try to impress me with unquantifiable jargon, it’s not working
And reality is still being protected, barely, by the clockwork cityThat’s actually the fractal missiles fired by some other party after those dudes were wiped out actually
The fact you think weaponized math is simple magic missles.Please tell me.
The range that affects the entire setting considering its World Refusals absolutely buttfucked time across all existence and lead to the dawn of a new era within TESGreat but again. I’m not arguing the power behind its erasure, just the range and how Neravarine never is shown getting hit by it
What are you talking about. You said that they were just like a weakened Vivic and I said that Vivec claimed the Nerevarine could kill him. I didnt do a 180 on anything this entire time.I love how you get all hyped up with Neravarine stuff but as soon as I post the scans of it applying to the opposing side, you do a 180 and just pretend it wasn’t even an argument when you brought it up in the first place.
Never said it erased the imperial city, I pointed out that even landing near the city deleted the white gold tower instantly. This other information about the Numidium fucking up time is lore about the Numidium that shit happened elsewhere during the same event where he absolutely rocked all the gods shitLiterally read the entire fight. It didn’t even erase the entire imperial city. It was fucking up time across the Multiverse sure but not in any way that it destroyed everything instantly:
Never said he scaled, I mentioned, from the start, that the Nerevarine fought himInside his mecha powered by several Daedra Artifacts and elder scrolls while still losing anyway, not on his own
He doesn’t scale to the Numidium’s power in any reasonable way. Move on.
The “surface world of the 4 Worlds that literally just mentioned for any magic that revolves around Kabbalah. That there’s no basis that they even exist physically?"Literally nothing in those quotes proves it's anything but the surface world being affected, except for willful misinterpretation of what "world" or "everything" is referring to in that context.
We've done this same song and dance before."
You didn't address anything I said.
“This is not thy place, but I forbid thee to depart!! I shall now intentionally enact a failed exorcism. Great Demon Coronzon, return to thy rightful world while thy power is torn into the almighty number of 11!!”
Magician Aleister Crowley really did seem to be coughing up blood as she yelled the words.
If you thought of a summoning circle like a warp gate from cheap science fiction, then what would happen if you threw someone into a malfunctioning gate and entered the coordinates using a staticky signal? The power to forcibly send her back between phases would slice Coronzon apart like a wire through a hardboiled egg.
“Oh!”
Fearsome sparks exploded out.
And not figuratively. An orange light really did scatter all around her.
“Oooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!???”
It was a lot like pushing a human body through a noodle maker. Coronzon’s silhouette vanished into the bright light as her entire body was torn apart and forced into a total of eleven gates.
And can’t be quantifiedI dont need to impress you I just need you to not downplay what is happening to mere "magic missles"
A feat for the tower; and not the Neverarine and all the more reason why he lasted in a fight along with everything else.And reality is still being protected, barely, by the clockwork city
You’re still not answering my question. Explain to me why in your words it’s so great.The fact you think weaponized math is simple magic missles.
But still has the effects on the battlefield I mentioned above, I.e. not instantly yeeting everything from existence at once thanks to being held backThe range that affects the entire setting considering its World Refusals absolutely buttfucked time across all existence and lead to the dawn of a new era within TES
You went from bringing up Nerevarine compares to Vivec to saying he’d kill Vivec. What ever are Vivec’s feats anyway?What are you talking about. You said that they were just like a weakened Vivic and I said that Vivec claimed the Nerevarine could kill him. I didnt do a 180 on anything this entire time.
Because of a clock tower protecting him and even the ordinary land from not getting instantly yeeted and a mecha doing the fighting for him. Next.Nerevarine fought Numidium and didnt instantly get yeeted from the narrative
Read above.Never said it erased the imperial city, I pointed out that even landing near the city deleted the white gold tower instantly. This other information about the Numidium fucking up time is lore about the Numidium that shit happened elsewhere during the same event where he absolutely rocked all the gods shit
So there’s no real argument to be made here since again, there was a lot of outside factors helping Neravarine including not even fighting the Numidium with his own power at that.Never said he scaled, I mentioned, from the start, that the Nerevarine fought him
For some reason people seem to think that if someone says "hey person a fought person b" that MUST imply the person is attempting to scale. I can't just be describing a situation where someone didnt immediately get fucked
NAH "Masterblack has to be attempting to scale Nerevarine to Numidium even though he mentioned multiple times that the Numidium won and beat people stronger than the Nerevarine already"
inb4 "oh your trying to do a 180"
Citation needed.Coronzon's entire existence and plan proves they actually exist. Are you being willfully obtuse?
I never once disputed that phases exist within the Sephiroth.
The Four Worlds aren't represented by four different phases, do you have ANY idea how this series works?
Or how the Kabbalah works at it's core?
Quote saying she destroyed everything says otherwise. The only confined exception was the one Phase remaining the Magic Gods were inOthinus didn't destroy the religious phases because numerous quotes exist stating that Magic Gods are limited to the surface world and the fact that Dainsleif calamities, literal mock imitations of actual phase beings in said religious phases..
Can destroy the "world" just like Magic Gods do.
It’s all worthless fluff from Kamachi referencingYou're acting like the Kabbalah is some obscure niche shit for specific magic in the series when it's the literal foundation of the cosmology and lore.
Angel Fall, anyone?
Bringing down a higher being from a higher sephirah which is only possible because of the attack on the Sephiroth that Coronzon mentions in late NT?
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