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Sorry Gad. It’s my fault that wagon started and my vote was placed over the stupidest reason of fence sitting. I just skimmed through the Poyser/tweet argument and don’t care to read through insults and attacks, but I’ll pull some receipts on that amateur straw clutching case from Poyser. Might sound OMGUS but he’d love to pull the lethal lynch in a slimy way as wolf. Shouldn’t have voted me though cos now my spikes gonna fuck you up :)
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
Poyser? I wouldn't say I'm certain he's scum, but we got 3 strong players out here agreeing that he hasn't looked great d1 and I've had my reservations about him as well. He's got his spells of genuine looking solving but then there's also sudden town reads on players that I consider easily pocketable. He's explained most of those and the explanations look decent enough but this is Poyser, he's not gonna come up with clearly bullshit reasons for his reads. Also yeah Lethal might be scum but Poyser coming out today and having Lethal as his preferred direction is something that's more in his wheelhouse as predatory scum imo.

There's also been phases where I think he felt uncertain with how to progress with his detractors. I'm almost certain that he must have insinuated that all of CP, Gram and Ratchet are scum at some point, could be wrong on that though.
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i think if poyser's town its basically 100% that we have a scum in cp, ratchet, gram given how the day 1 went

don't see his position as unnatural. did u cross check with the strong players if their reasons for scum reading him tracks? if im this blindsided by poyser im gonna need somone to help me see the light
 
Emil said:
i think if poyser's town its basically 100% that we have a scum in cp, ratchet, gram given how the day 1 went

don't see his position as unnatural. did u cross check with the strong players if their reasons for scum reading him tracks? if im this blindsided by poyser im gonna need somone to help me see the light
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Myeah I could definitely understand them reading him scum over him reading any of them scum. Helps that I was already kinda sus of him before any of them made a big swing for it
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
Myeah I could definitely understand them reading him scum over him reading any of them scum. Helps that I was already kinda sus of him before any of them made a big swing for it
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he hasnt really been actively reading them scum, more so unsure why r they, as town, struggling that hard with reading him

also he was unsure why are they easily reading watson town, which is possible via tmi etc..
 
Lethal said:
Sorry Gad. It’s my fault that wagon started and my vote was placed over the stupidest reason of fence sitting. I just skimmed through the Poyser/tweet argument and don’t care to read through insults and attacks, but I’ll pull some receipts on that amateur straw clutching case from Poyser. Might sound OMGUS but he’d love to pull the lethal lynch in a slimy way as wolf. Shouldn’t have voted me though cos now my spikes gonna fuck you up :)
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thoughts on cp, ratchet, watson, tweet while at it?

vote lynch lethal
 
I still want to lynch Poyser, but if I take a step back outside of him being scum I don't have much than can fit. If Poyser is town, surely Ekko is town too? Because I mean, he had Poyser right there lol. I think in a Poyser town world, Watson, Famg and Ral all look pretty bad, particularly Watson, because as scum they wouldn't have the confidence to lynch Poyser when they have him there for the taking.

Still think Gram and Tweet are town, more confident on Tweet. Less sure about Tempest, would still lean town overall on him though because I've agreed with a lot of what he's said.

I really think solving Poyser would help a lot here but I can see a world where he's town. And actually I have a harder time coming up with team mates for him because as scum he would be wanting his team to look good from his flip, not fall over themselves to protect him.

Think I want Ral to claim today. Hopefully Watson has some results too. Then it's really about how much I want to gamble - I think optimally a Poyser lynch helps solve some things from the wagons, when you have splits like that it's usually a good idea to get the other flip, but am happy to defer to Watson or even Fang/Ral if that's not happening. Yeah that's pretty much all I got right now.
 
- Reads me scum for not townreading an obviously town Watson

Fast forward 1 phase

- Wants to lynch Watson

- Still has scum read of me

Impressive :bjpenn
 
Ratchet said:
I still want to lynch Poyser, but if I take a step back outside of him being scum I don't have much than can fit. If Poyser is town, surely Ekko is town too? Because I mean, he had Poyser right there lol. I think in a Poyser town world, Watson, Famg and Ral all look pretty bad, particularly Watson, because as scum they wouldn't have the confidence to lynch Poyser when they have him there for the taking.

Still think Gram and Tweet are town, more confident on Tweet. Less sure about Tempest, would still lean town overall on him though because I've agreed with a lot of what he's said.

I really think solving Poyser would help a lot here but I can see a world where he's town. And actually I have a harder time coming up with team mates for him because as scum he would be wanting his team to look good from his flip, not fall over themselves to protect him.

Think I want Ral to claim today. Hopefully Watson has some results too. Then it's really about how much I want to gamble - I think optimally a Poyser lynch helps solve some things from the wagons, when you have splits like that it's usually a good idea to get the other flip, but am happy to defer to Watson or even Fang/Ral if that's not happening. Yeah that's pretty much all I got right now.
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why do i feel like ur struggling to read some slots that i normally think u shud be able to consolidate a bit more on them at this stage, atleast for the sake of moving forward?
 
Poyser said:
- Reads me scum for not townreading an obviously town Watson

Fast forward 1 phase

- Wants to lynch Watson

- Still has scum read of me

Impressive :bjpenn
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Did you read my post? Assuming this is referring to my position. Because I think I said "if Poyser is town, Watson looks bad", I'm not saying you're scum together.
 
Emil said:
why do i feel like ur struggling to read some slots that i normally think u shud be able to consolidate a bit more on them at this stage, atleast for the sake of moving forward?
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Which slots? Think I've got a read on most slots, going to need you to be a bit more specific.
 
Poyser said:
Actually, on revision this kind of sticks out straight away. FTR I was town reading lethal because I liked that despite arriving to the game incredibly late, when he got here, he just got on with trying to catch up and providing thoughts on stuff that happened and providing reads with no histrionics. This would generally be indicative of town lethal, but I do think he's actually done better at this recently when he's been scum, and I also think if he were scum with someone that knew his game well (such as a gram), then he would have been told that hey, when you show up you need to provide thoughts and catch up and most importantly, vote, because otherwise people are just going to want to lynch you.

Anyway as for why this sticks out is because it seems very unnatural for the Lethal that I know. If he read Fang as town that's one thing, but he states here that he doesn't and yet he's very SOFT on him. For one, he has no appetite to vote for him (and fang was very much the most viable lynch at this point) and 2, he shows no appetite to punch down to Fang at all. In fact, he actually indulges Fang's theory about him being wagoned out of spite! If there's one thing about Lethal, its that he LOVES to punch down to people he considers lower than him on the totem pole, and Fang specifically, is a favourite of Lethal. The biggest red flag here, is fang said he'd only claim his animal, and lethal just accepts it and says it would be kind of him to claim his animal at least lmao. That is so un-lethal it's not even funny. Town lethal here would love joining a lynch on fang esp if he doesnt town read him, he'd love talking shit to fang and most importantly, he'd love getting on his soap box about 1) fang making pity posts accusing people of voting him out of spite and 2) the fact that fang was implying he wouldn't be claiming a role. He wouldn't accept either of those things, ever.

So I probably want to start my day here

vote lethal
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What an almighty smear campaign this is.

My last scum game was frozen in chat and abysmal play into a lynch. I think it’s poor form to suggest I’d be open to such orders from anyone. I pulled my finger out of my arse cos ultra roasted me in pm about activity.

Yeah, I was and am soft on him. My play has evolved to not be an arsehole so that’s what it is. We wanted a claim and he was on 4/7 votes so mine wasn’t needed for my pov. I also didn’t indulge it, I merely asked if it was based on spite given I hadn’t: a) not seen enough to wolf lean him myself or b) not been in last games dead chat where the vibe was to smite him out of revenge for being outplayed. You use this totem pole like it’s a user manual for me - I’ve evolved in taking that shit attitude away and you should be well aware of this. Blatant gaslighting to suit a false agenda is sad to see. Fang said he’d claim animal so I kindly supported the notion of the claim, and he put it all in. If I got aggressive, he gets aggressive back, game gets flooded with crap, he buries his head in the sand and we get nowhere. Why would I call fang out on the spite votes when I observed that myself? I even mentioned that the argument with he and tweet was tiresome? Nice try lad
 
i cant track this part the most - what makes ral and fang automatically bad in a poyser town world exactly?
 
Ratchet said:
Did you read my post? Assuming this is referring to my position. Because I think I said "if Poyser is town, Watson looks bad", I'm not saying you're scum together.
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This is the sort of thing that makes it hard to read you Town btw Poyser, like you have to be completely ignoring the premise of my argument to make a disingenuous "gotcha", which reads more as you trying to make something happen rather than it be a legitimate train of thought. After being wrong on Gad I'm happy to take a step back, but for me to find you here you're going to have to extend more honesty to your arguments I think.
 
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