1994-1999
The era between Zero Hour and Infinite Crisis is without a doubt the longest era in Post Crisis history. It is very densely packed too. For this reason I will make a blog starting simply with Jurgens' Superman run until late 1999 and then make a blog dealing with Loeb and Johns era DC.
After Zero Hour, not much changed. In fact for this span of times feats for Superman go back to Byrne era levels, rarely reaching the heights of Superman post revival.
Author: Ron Marz:
Kyle Rayner in his dramatic fight with Parallax destroys Oa
Source: Man of Steel #52 (January 1996)
Author: Louise Simonson
Cyborg Superman merges with the Tribunals' planet and is capable of outputting energy powered by the planet's core:
We don't know how big the Tribunals' planet is so let's use Earth as a basis of comparison. How much power does the Earth's core have for comparison?
Around 47 terawatts
Assuming Cyborg has been charged up for 10 seconds, 30 seconds, and a minute, that would output an energy of 112.332696 kilotons of tnt to 673.996176 kilotons of tnt (Large Town level to Large Town level+)
This is town level, which is good because Cyborg does say it's able to level a city... Right?
If you actually look he compares his power to what he was capable of back in Reign of Supermen, so we should refer back to that and scale it to that:
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This means he had a power output similar to around 1.4074725 teratons of tnt (Small Country level) to 404.86131 petatons of tnt (Multi-Continental level)
Cyborg seems pretty confident this will kill or "atomize" Superman and Superman seems to agree by his actions of trying to dismantle it in the story.
Source: JLA #3 (March 1997)
Author: Grant Morrison
This is the first time Wally West does an IMP.
Here it's explained how it works using real life physics. We should take that in mind. Basically the closer something gets to the speed of light, the higher its mass becomes which increases the total kinetic energy. This is an asymptotic relationship, ergo it approaches the speed of light rather than actually becomes it. That's because anything which actually reaches the speed of light would have infinite mass and create a singularity. So whenever a future IMP is mentioned to be "at light speed," that should be taken to be very close to light speed, not literally at it.
Here is the calculation:
Final result is 1668212682648863262 joules or 398.7124 megatons of tnt (Mountain level) at a low end and 7184679263451623944 joules or 1.72 gigatons of tnt (Large Mountain level) at a high end
Perhaps this blog will be more filled out as Green Lantern feats come in but for now I have to say there is quite a drought of feats post Zero Hour as we see above. This will be a running trend until Loeb comes in. One can only assume Jurgens was trying to pull back from the former half of the 90s giving Superman progressively greater and more cosmic feats. Irregardless, an explanation can be given. Superman still can achieve the moon to small planet level feats he achieved post-revival as we saw in the last blog but he has control over his strength up to that level and has less of a reason to go so all out. Furthermore most of Superman's opponents relied on espionage, treachery, and mindgames to deal with Superman at this time rather than brute strength. Because of this, Superman has no reason to smash giant asteroids or tank nuclear explosions or any of that. The writers wanted to scale down from the power and villain creep seen with Mongul, Darkseid, Doomsday, and the Cyborg so slowed the rate and scale of feats.
From 1997 to 1998 DC decided to be experimental and radically changed Superman's design and abilities (For the worse)
Source: Man of Steel #68 (June 1997)
Author: Louise Simonson
Metallo absorbs the reactive energy of several nuclear reactors as it explodes, this is portrayed as a limit for Superman Blue:
The reactors came from an Aircraft Carrier and a Submarine.
Nimitz Carriers hold A4W reactors which have power outputs of 550 megawatts and have a lifespan of 25 years before needing refueling. That's 103.706437 megatons of tnt (Mountain level)
He also absorbed the energy from a submarine reactor. I will assume he absorbed that of an S6G reactor. That's another 165 megawatts, refueling after 30 years
would yield 37.3343173 megatons of tnt (City level). This would make 141.0407543 megatons of tnt (Mountain level) as the high end for this. It actually overdid his containment suit and Booster Gold had to save Superman:
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So yeah this is a limit
Source: JLA #7 (July 1997)
Author: Grant Morrison
The moon was crashing into Earth so Superman amps his electrical energy to hold the moon back, this is a good feat of how much electromagnetic energy he can actually hold:
The Moon was close enough to cause gravitational disturbances:
Roche limit of the Moon is 19,000 kilometers
Meanwhile the distance from the Earth to Moon usually is 385,000 km
In this, Gm1m2 is a constant, so this can be best described as ∫Gm1m2/x^2dx = -Gm1m2/x
x1 would = 385,000 km
x2 would = 19,000 km
m1 would = the mass of the Earth or 5.972e24 kg
m2 would = the mass the moon or 7.34767309e22 kg
|((6.6743e-11)(5.972e24)(7.348e22)/(384400000)) - ((6.6743e-11)(5.972e24)(7.348e22)/(19000000))| = 1.4652989e+30 joules or 350.214842 exatons of tnt (Moon level+
A second method of doing this that's a little bit more basic is using the Cosmic Velocity of the Moon, or 7910 meters per second. That would net 2298065623142872916942143998524 joules or 549.25 exatons of tnt (Small planet level)
Superman didn't do it with his own power, he used another powersource, but his energy form was able to render and hold this much energy so it's still a feat for him
Source: Steel Vol. 2 #50
Author: Christopher Priest
This is very straight forward:
Superman hits with 50 kilotons of tnt (Town level)
Here is the most impressive feat of Superman in this era, well Supermen.
Earth's core was destabilized
This is a complex equation, but simply put the Earth's core was destabilized beyond repair so I can maybe use GBE.
Earth's core is 3485 km in diameter, has a mass of 1.91e24 kg, and a gravity of 4.3 m/s^2.
3(3485 km)(1.91e24 kg)(4.3 m/s^2)/5 = 4.10453705 zettatons of tnt (Small planet level) or 2.052 zettatons of tnt for Superman Red/Blue individually. Superman being united is implied to be greater than the sum of the two:
So Superman at absolute full expenditure would >4 zettatons of tnt then.
Source: DC One Million #4 (November 1998)
Author: Grant Morrison
Kyle Rayner, at the very limit of his power, managed to increase the mass of the small Star-computer Solaris until it destabilized into a Supernova and was close to failing at holding it when Kal-Kent came in to help.
So Kyle at his very limit is Large Planet to Dwarf Star level for this feat. And when I say limit, I mean it, he was literally hemorrhaging by the end:
And this was considered exceptionally high end for the JL as a whole, with Wonder Woman praising it as a "feat"
Source: JLA/Titans #3 (February 1999)
Author: Devin Grayson and Phil Jimenez
The Moon is being covered over a ship and pulled out of Orbit, but the JLA all manage to maintain and hold it on.
The mass was increased greatly by this ship:
Moon = 518 pixels = 2,159.1 mi = 21,966,635,826,054,172,778 cubic meters
Ship = 711x207 pixels = 740.52 pixels = 3,086.596 miles = 64,177,773,330,439,545,168 cubic meters
64,177,773,330,439,545,168 cubic meters - 21,966,635,826,054,172,778 cubic meters
I will assume this structure is made of Titanium which 4.5 g/cm^3
= 1.89950118e23 kg
I will use the cosmic velocity from earlier
This nets me 5942408992120568409132564237233 joules or 1.42 zettatons of tnt (Small planet level)
6 People were contributing to it so I divide by 6 to get ~236.67 exatons of tnt (Moon level) assuming they all equally contributed here
Source: The Flash Vol 2 #148 (May 1999)
Author: Mark Waid
Wally West increases the relativistic mass of his punch such that he hits like a white dwarf. This hurt Reverse Flash quite a bit.
Note as I said earlier he didn't actually go at light speed, just very close to it.
Thankfully VSB calculated it already
vsbattles.fandom.com
It got 1.08 kiloFOE (Solar System level)
Keep in mind this wouldn't scale to anyone beyond Eobard Thawne and Wally West. IMP has variable yield depending how close to LS you get. He went faster here than before and even said he never had the guts to go this hard on anyone prior:
The only reason Wally had the guts to do this now is he had a "license for brutality" due to Eobard Thawne's effective immortality. He knew he could hit however hard he wanted and it wouldn't matter. In more normal situations he wouldn't want to hit this hard as he wouldn't have this "license." Plus in general Wally is just on another level to others, let's not forget he managed to damage the Anti-Monitor in this comic run too.
Source: Action Comics #759 (November 1999)
Author: Randall and Ron Frenz
Left out of control of her power, Strange Visitor can fry half the state
Metropolis is in Delaware
delaware.gov
Delaware is 154.497 km long, so let's use a nuclear explosion with a fireball radius of 38.62425 km
nuclearweaponsedproj.mit.edu
A fireball on that scope is 2.25795 gigatons of tnt (Large Mountain level)
I might be missing a lot because I haven't read Green Lantern, but on Superman's end this was really mostly everything he did between 1994 and 1999. Having finished this, I am further convinced the Suneater feat I discussed in the last blog is truly an outlier. Jurgens never went beyond or even comparable to that feat, with the "ultimate display of power" from Superman Red/Blue being small planet level and Kyle's supernova feat measuring still being 1/900,000th the Suneater feat. I can't make a definitive conclusion because I still haven't really read much GL stuff, but I think post-Death but pre-Loeb Superman is about Small Planet level at his peak. It seems fairly consistent. Wally West ranges from city level to higher, but at his peak he could hit at solar system levels. Meanwhile Kyle is probably Small Planet level, Large Planet to Dwarf Star level at his peak right now.
Next stop, Loeb era. We have reached the 2000s. A new millennium for DC Comica.
The era between Zero Hour and Infinite Crisis is without a doubt the longest era in Post Crisis history. It is very densely packed too. For this reason I will make a blog starting simply with Jurgens' Superman run until late 1999 and then make a blog dealing with Loeb and Johns era DC.
After Zero Hour, not much changed. In fact for this span of times feats for Superman go back to Byrne era levels, rarely reaching the heights of Superman post revival.
Mulletman Era (October 1994 to April 1997)
Kyle Rayner Destroys Oa
Source: Green Lantern Vol 3 #0 (October, 1994)Author: Ron Marz:
Kyle Rayner in his dramatic fight with Parallax destroys Oa
Cyborg Superman merges with planet
Source: Man of Steel #52 (January 1996)
Author: Louise Simonson
Cyborg Superman merges with the Tribunals' planet and is capable of outputting energy powered by the planet's core:
We don't know how big the Tribunals' planet is so let's use Earth as a basis of comparison. How much power does the Earth's core have for comparison?
Around 47 terawatts
Assuming Cyborg has been charged up for 10 seconds, 30 seconds, and a minute, that would output an energy of 112.332696 kilotons of tnt to 673.996176 kilotons of tnt (Large Town level to Large Town level+)
This is town level, which is good because Cyborg does say it's able to level a city... Right?
If you actually look he compares his power to what he was capable of back in Reign of Supermen, so we should refer back to that and scale it to that:
DC Comics Feats - Pre-Zero Hour (October 1986 to September 1994)
The year was 1985 when the DC Multiverse was changed forevere. The infinite universes that once constituted DC Comics was condensed down to one. Many of the heroes of the Gilded, Silver, and Bronze Ages of DC Comics were slain by the events...
onelastforum.com This means he had a power output similar to around 1.4074725 teratons of tnt (Small Country level) to 404.86131 petatons of tnt (Multi-Continental level)
Cyborg seems pretty confident this will kill or "atomize" Superman and Superman seems to agree by his actions of trying to dismantle it in the story.
Wally West's First Infinite Mass Punch
Source: JLA #3 (March 1997)
Author: Grant Morrison
This is the first time Wally West does an IMP.
Here it's explained how it works using real life physics. We should take that in mind. Basically the closer something gets to the speed of light, the higher its mass becomes which increases the total kinetic energy. This is an asymptotic relationship, ergo it approaches the speed of light rather than actually becomes it. That's because anything which actually reaches the speed of light would have infinite mass and create a singularity. So whenever a future IMP is mentioned to be "at light speed," that should be taken to be very close to light speed, not literally at it.
Here is the calculation:
So anyways, we need to find the speed of Wally West here to come to an actual conclusion how hard he hit. Thankfully we are given a maximum timeframe for Wally here.
See the guy's vase being dropped
Wally would circle the Earth, do his IMP on Zum (The person he is fighting), and then stop the vase from breaking:
He appears to be in Mexico City so I will use the average height of a Mexican:
https://www.healthline.com/health/average-height-for-men
Human Height = 129x270 px = 299.234 pixels = 169 cm
Drop = 144 pixels = 81.328 cm
Distance to ground = 350 pixels = 81.328 cm
Distance to ground before Flash Intercepts = 70 pixels = 16.267 cm
= 65.061 cm (2.135 feet)
keisan.casio.com
= 0.3643 seconds
So this is the timeframe
After Mexico city they both run to Beijing:
www.freemaptools.com
Beijing is 12,457.888 kilometers from Mexico City
The next place they reach is Mount Rushmore:
www.freemaptools.com
9877.227 kilometers
But then Wally West circles the Earth to get ahead of Zum and reach his maximum speed, or another 40,075 kilometers
Lastly he runs back from Mount Rushmore to Mexico City.
www.freemaptools.com
Which is another 1563.648 kilometers
So 12,457.888 kilometers + 9877.227 kilometers + 40,075 kilometers + 1563.648 kilometers = 63,973.763 kilometers
63,973.763 kilometers/0.3643 seconds = 175,607,365 m/s
This is the minimum velocity Wally was going at then. Wally West weighs 175 lb
www.omnicalculator.com
= 1668212682648863262 joules or 398.7124 megatons of tnt (Mountain level)
This is the low end which assumes Wally was going at a constant speed when he clearly sped up even further when he circled the Earth. What we will have to do is find a speed which makes Wally look like a beam of light relative to Zum's speed (Who we can assume was relatively constant)
We must remove the Earth circumference to get an average speed for Zum: 12,457.888 kilometers + 9877.227 kilometers + 1563.648 kilometers = 23,898.763 kilometers
23,898.763 kilometers/0.3643 seconds = 65,601,874.8 m/s
This is Zum's speed
According to my friend, even at 0.7c, a 0.8c ship will look like a beam of light. I have to use this formula:
u = (v+u')/(1+((vu')/c^2))
(65,601,874.8 m/s+239,834,000 m/s)/(1+(((65,601,874.8 m/s )(239,834,000 m/s))/c^2)) = 259,932,271 m / s
This is the speed Wally would have to be moving at to appear as a laser to Zum then
I get 7184679263451623944 joules or 1.72 gigatons of tnt (Large Mountain level)
See the guy's vase being dropped
Wally would circle the Earth, do his IMP on Zum (The person he is fighting), and then stop the vase from breaking:
He appears to be in Mexico City so I will use the average height of a Mexican:
https://www.healthline.com/health/average-height-for-men
Human Height = 129x270 px = 299.234 pixels = 169 cm
Drop = 144 pixels = 81.328 cm
Distance to ground = 350 pixels = 81.328 cm
Distance to ground before Flash Intercepts = 70 pixels = 16.267 cm
= 65.061 cm (2.135 feet)
Free fall (time and velocity) Calculator
Calculates the free fall time and velocity without air resistance from the free fall distance.
keisan.casio.com = 0.3643 seconds
So this is the timeframe
After Mexico city they both run to Beijing:
How Far is it Between Beijing, China and Mexico City, Mexico
Find out how far is it from Beijing, China to Mexico City, Mexico and see it on a map.
www.freemaptools.com Beijing is 12,457.888 kilometers from Mexico City
The next place they reach is Mount Rushmore:
How Far is it Between Beijing, China and Mount Rushmore
Find out how far is it from Beijing, China to Mount Rushmore and see it on a map.
www.freemaptools.com 9877.227 kilometers
But then Wally West circles the Earth to get ahead of Zum and reach his maximum speed, or another 40,075 kilometers
Lastly he runs back from Mount Rushmore to Mexico City.
How Far is it Between Mount,rushmore and Mexico City, Mexico
Find out how far is it from Mount,rushmore to Mexico City, Mexico and see it on a map.
www.freemaptools.com Which is another 1563.648 kilometers
So 12,457.888 kilometers + 9877.227 kilometers + 40,075 kilometers + 1563.648 kilometers = 63,973.763 kilometers
63,973.763 kilometers/0.3643 seconds = 175,607,365 m/s
This is the minimum velocity Wally was going at then. Wally West weighs 175 lb
Relativistic Kinetic Energy Calculator
Relativistic kinetic energy calculator finds the kinetic energy of an object traveling at a speed similar to the speed of light.
www.omnicalculator.com = 1668212682648863262 joules or 398.7124 megatons of tnt (Mountain level)
This is the low end which assumes Wally was going at a constant speed when he clearly sped up even further when he circled the Earth. What we will have to do is find a speed which makes Wally look like a beam of light relative to Zum's speed (Who we can assume was relatively constant)
We must remove the Earth circumference to get an average speed for Zum: 12,457.888 kilometers + 9877.227 kilometers + 1563.648 kilometers = 23,898.763 kilometers
23,898.763 kilometers/0.3643 seconds = 65,601,874.8 m/s
This is Zum's speed
According to my friend, even at 0.7c, a 0.8c ship will look like a beam of light. I have to use this formula:
u = (v+u')/(1+((vu')/c^2))
- u = walley's velocity as seen from rest
- v = zum's velocity = 65,601,874.8 m/s
- u' = walley's velocity relative to zum = 0.8c or 239,834,000 m/s
(65,601,874.8 m/s+239,834,000 m/s)/(1+(((65,601,874.8 m/s )(239,834,000 m/s))/c^2)) = 259,932,271 m / s
This is the speed Wally would have to be moving at to appear as a laser to Zum then
I get 7184679263451623944 joules or 1.72 gigatons of tnt (Large Mountain level)
Final result is 1668212682648863262 joules or 398.7124 megatons of tnt (Mountain level) at a low end and 7184679263451623944 joules or 1.72 gigatons of tnt (Large Mountain level) at a high end
Some concluding thoughts
Perhaps this blog will be more filled out as Green Lantern feats come in but for now I have to say there is quite a drought of feats post Zero Hour as we see above. This will be a running trend until Loeb comes in. One can only assume Jurgens was trying to pull back from the former half of the 90s giving Superman progressively greater and more cosmic feats. Irregardless, an explanation can be given. Superman still can achieve the moon to small planet level feats he achieved post-revival as we saw in the last blog but he has control over his strength up to that level and has less of a reason to go so all out. Furthermore most of Superman's opponents relied on espionage, treachery, and mindgames to deal with Superman at this time rather than brute strength. Because of this, Superman has no reason to smash giant asteroids or tank nuclear explosions or any of that. The writers wanted to scale down from the power and villain creep seen with Mongul, Darkseid, Doomsday, and the Cyborg so slowed the rate and scale of feats.
Superman Blue Era (April 1997 to May 1998)
From 1997 to 1998 DC decided to be experimental and radically changed Superman's design and abilities (For the worse)
Superman tries to render nuclear reactors
Source: Man of Steel #68 (June 1997)
Author: Louise Simonson
Metallo absorbs the reactive energy of several nuclear reactors as it explodes, this is portrayed as a limit for Superman Blue:
The reactors came from an Aircraft Carrier and a Submarine.
Nimitz Carriers hold A4W reactors which have power outputs of 550 megawatts and have a lifespan of 25 years before needing refueling. That's 103.706437 megatons of tnt (Mountain level)
He also absorbed the energy from a submarine reactor. I will assume he absorbed that of an S6G reactor. That's another 165 megawatts, refueling after 30 years
would yield 37.3343173 megatons of tnt (City level). This would make 141.0407543 megatons of tnt (Mountain level) as the high end for this. It actually overdid his containment suit and Booster Gold had to save Superman:
So yeah this is a limit
Superman holds the Moon
Source: JLA #7 (July 1997)
Author: Grant Morrison
The moon was crashing into Earth so Superman amps his electrical energy to hold the moon back, this is a good feat of how much electromagnetic energy he can actually hold:
The Moon was close enough to cause gravitational disturbances:
How close would the Moon need to get to Earth until it was pulled apart? | Space Facts – Astronomy, the Solar System & Outer Space | All About Space Magazine
If the Moon was to make an approach to Earth, at what point would its material begin to be stripped?
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Roche limit of the Moon is 19,000 kilometers
Meanwhile the distance from the Earth to Moon usually is 385,000 km
In this, Gm1m2 is a constant, so this can be best described as ∫Gm1m2/x^2dx = -Gm1m2/x
x1 would = 385,000 km
x2 would = 19,000 km
m1 would = the mass of the Earth or 5.972e24 kg
m2 would = the mass the moon or 7.34767309e22 kg
|((6.6743e-11)(5.972e24)(7.348e22)/(384400000)) - ((6.6743e-11)(5.972e24)(7.348e22)/(19000000))| = 1.4652989e+30 joules or 350.214842 exatons of tnt (Moon level+
A second method of doing this that's a little bit more basic is using the Cosmic Velocity of the Moon, or 7910 meters per second. That would net 2298065623142872916942143998524 joules or 549.25 exatons of tnt (Small planet level)
Superman didn't do it with his own power, he used another powersource, but his energy form was able to render and hold this much energy so it's still a feat for him
Superman hits with 50 kilotons
Source: Steel Vol. 2 #50
Author: Christopher Priest
This is very straight forward:
Superman hits with 50 kilotons of tnt (Town level)
Last move of Superman Red/Blue
Here is the most impressive feat of Superman in this era, well Supermen.
Earth's core was destabilized
This is a complex equation, but simply put the Earth's core was destabilized beyond repair so I can maybe use GBE.
Earth's core is 3485 km in diameter, has a mass of 1.91e24 kg, and a gravity of 4.3 m/s^2.
3(3485 km)(1.91e24 kg)(4.3 m/s^2)/5 = 4.10453705 zettatons of tnt (Small planet level) or 2.052 zettatons of tnt for Superman Red/Blue individually. Superman being united is implied to be greater than the sum of the two:
So Superman at absolute full expenditure would >4 zettatons of tnt then.
Late Jurgens Era (May 1998 to November 1999)
Full power of Kyle Rayner
Source: DC One Million #4 (November 1998)
Author: Grant Morrison
Kyle Rayner, at the very limit of his power, managed to increase the mass of the small Star-computer Solaris until it destabilized into a Supernova and was close to failing at holding it when Kal-Kent came in to help.
To find the energy for this, we need to find the mass for Solaris.
we can get the mass of Solaris from
1. It's radius:
We can see the core is about the size of starman who is 6 feet, eying this this will give so 1.8 to 2.5 meters. It won't change the rough number so will do a diameter of 2 meters.
2. The fact it has "neutron gravity" it can control:
It has "neutron star gravity" or 2e12 m/s^2
www.wolframalpha.com
I get a mass of 2.997e22 kg
Now I have two methods regarding this calculation, first I will calculate the energy of it simply ejecting like a supernova and then a more esoteric calculation where I find the Chandekessar limit number, subtract it from the base mass, and take the mass energy of that difference as that's the amount of mass Kyle created from his ring's light constructs.
www.nationalgeographic.com
Supernova ejecta is around 40,000 km/s
At 40,000 km/s, a supernova from Solaris' core is 24300947083809861115838525094906880531 joules or 5.8081 ninatons of tnt (Large planet level)
This is the low end based solely on the energy Kyle Rayner was (trying to) resisting
Now for the second method, I need to find the Chandrasekhar limit:
www.easycalculation.com
I get 4.37562e22 kg
4.37562e22 kg - 2.997e22 kg = 1.37862e22 kg
1.37862e22 kg * c^2 = 296.138 ninatons of tnt (Dwarf Star level)
we can get the mass of Solaris from
1. It's radius:
We can see the core is about the size of starman who is 6 feet, eying this this will give so 1.8 to 2.5 meters. It won't change the rough number so will do a diameter of 2 meters.
2. The fact it has "neutron gravity" it can control:
It has "neutron star gravity" or 2e12 m/s^2
surface gravity calculator - Wolfram|Alpha
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www.wolframalpha.com I get a mass of 2.997e22 kg
Now I have two methods regarding this calculation, first I will calculate the energy of it simply ejecting like a supernova and then a more esoteric calculation where I find the Chandekessar limit number, subtract it from the base mass, and take the mass energy of that difference as that's the amount of mass Kyle created from his ring's light constructs.
Supernovae Information and Facts
Learn more about what happens when stars explode from National Geographic.
www.nationalgeographic.com Supernova ejecta is around 40,000 km/s
At 40,000 km/s, a supernova from Solaris' core is 24300947083809861115838525094906880531 joules or 5.8081 ninatons of tnt (Large planet level)
This is the low end based solely on the energy Kyle Rayner was (trying to) resisting
Now for the second method, I need to find the Chandrasekhar limit:
Chandrasekhar Mass Calculation based on Solar Mass
The Chandrasekhar limit is the greatest mass of a stable white small star (approx 3 × 1030 kg, about 1.4 times the mass of the Sun). The limit was initially published by Wilhelm Anderson and E.
I get 4.37562e22 kg
4.37562e22 kg - 2.997e22 kg = 1.37862e22 kg
1.37862e22 kg * c^2 = 296.138 ninatons of tnt (Dwarf Star level)
So Kyle at his very limit is Large Planet to Dwarf Star level for this feat. And when I say limit, I mean it, he was literally hemorrhaging by the end:
And this was considered exceptionally high end for the JL as a whole, with Wonder Woman praising it as a "feat"
Justice League holds the Moon
Source: JLA/Titans #3 (February 1999)
Author: Devin Grayson and Phil Jimenez
The Moon is being covered over a ship and pulled out of Orbit, but the JLA all manage to maintain and hold it on.
The mass was increased greatly by this ship:
Moon = 518 pixels = 2,159.1 mi = 21,966,635,826,054,172,778 cubic meters
Ship = 711x207 pixels = 740.52 pixels = 3,086.596 miles = 64,177,773,330,439,545,168 cubic meters
64,177,773,330,439,545,168 cubic meters - 21,966,635,826,054,172,778 cubic meters
I will assume this structure is made of Titanium which 4.5 g/cm^3
= 1.89950118e23 kg
I will use the cosmic velocity from earlier
This nets me 5942408992120568409132564237233 joules or 1.42 zettatons of tnt (Small planet level)
6 People were contributing to it so I divide by 6 to get ~236.67 exatons of tnt (Moon level) assuming they all equally contributed here
Wally West's full power IMP
Source: The Flash Vol 2 #148 (May 1999)
Author: Mark Waid
Wally West increases the relativistic mass of his punch such that he hits like a white dwarf. This hurt Reverse Flash quite a bit.
Note as I said earlier he didn't actually go at light speed, just very close to it.
Thankfully VSB calculated it already
Flash: Explaining the Infinite Mass Punch
vsbattles.fandom.com It got 1.08 kiloFOE (Solar System level)
Keep in mind this wouldn't scale to anyone beyond Eobard Thawne and Wally West. IMP has variable yield depending how close to LS you get. He went faster here than before and even said he never had the guts to go this hard on anyone prior:
The only reason Wally had the guts to do this now is he had a "license for brutality" due to Eobard Thawne's effective immortality. He knew he could hit however hard he wanted and it wouldn't matter. In more normal situations he wouldn't want to hit this hard as he wouldn't have this "license." Plus in general Wally is just on another level to others, let's not forget he managed to damage the Anti-Monitor in this comic run too.
Strange Visitor can destroy half the state
Source: Action Comics #759 (November 1999)
Author: Randall and Ron Frenz
Left out of control of her power, Strange Visitor can fry half the state
Metropolis is in Delaware
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delaware.gov Delaware is 154.497 km long, so let's use a nuclear explosion with a fireball radius of 38.62425 km
Nuclear Fireball Calculator | Nuclear Weapons Education Project
A fireball on that scope is 2.25795 gigatons of tnt (Large Mountain level)
Some Concluding Thoughts
I might be missing a lot because I haven't read Green Lantern, but on Superman's end this was really mostly everything he did between 1994 and 1999. Having finished this, I am further convinced the Suneater feat I discussed in the last blog is truly an outlier. Jurgens never went beyond or even comparable to that feat, with the "ultimate display of power" from Superman Red/Blue being small planet level and Kyle's supernova feat measuring still being 1/900,000th the Suneater feat. I can't make a definitive conclusion because I still haven't really read much GL stuff, but I think post-Death but pre-Loeb Superman is about Small Planet level at his peak. It seems fairly consistent. Wally West ranges from city level to higher, but at his peak he could hit at solar system levels. Meanwhile Kyle is probably Small Planet level, Large Planet to Dwarf Star level at his peak right now.
Next stop, Loeb era. We have reached the 2000s. A new millennium for DC Comica.
