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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Literally Popeye’s Chad Russian counterpart.

Also, I say Ed stomps if he’s got a pebble in his shoe. The other side won’t know his weakness of removing it fast enough before Big Trouble happens.


No ones ready for big trouble
 


Comicvine really is genuinely insane. Someone posts scans of Sidious scaling to mind control in the billions, razing the surface of entire worlds at a minimum, and having light speed reactions.

But nah, Ainz somehow still stomps.
:mjlol
 

Doesn’t Rule Breaker need to stab the source of prana to negate whatever magecraft is in use? How is she going to stab Gojo?

It can stab the space? It doesn't need to stab the person to disable any spells, what nonsense are SB'ers on right now?
 
Ugh, alright I'll drop this as I don't feel like making this go on forever
@Thegoldenboy2188 You been here for awhile, why aren't you piping up lol?

Touma is not negating any actual toon characters abilities, toonforce is just reality warping and their's levels to this shit as with any power/ability.

Entering RL is>Just having universal control.

No-aru gets punched :mjlol
 

:hm
 

No he doesn’t, hence why I said he is pretty much normal, his stamina is appropriate for someone of his age and it doesn’t take to exhaust him or knock him out.

Touma is anime BS level normal( super human ) with BS endurance. Shirou is pretty much normal, and even at his highest pick in each route, he has about 5 or 2 min going all out before collapsing from exhaustion + magical energy depletion.


The 2 of them are not similar at all and are not equal in the slightest, one is a small piece of rock while the other is Mount Everest

Normal is not losing an entire arm and treating it like it's nothing major, Normal is getting an enormous Nail going through your hand and worrying if someone else was hurt.
Normal is not literally getting split in half by Heracles and barely even acknowledging the pain. Normal is not being reduced to a virtual walking corpse to your future self and still being alive at the end of the day to fight again like 2-3 minutes later.
Normal is not literally being pummeled to bits, losing bits and pieces of your own memory and self and fucking dying on multiple levels and literally powering through it to save a loved one.

Why the fuck is SB so fucking stupid when it comes to Shirou Emiya? The entire story, his existence isn't fucking normal in the slightest, do people not understand how this shit works?
 

I can see this going one of two ways.

#1: Archer quickly traces a weapon and faces Tatsumi head on, and promptly gets folded due to Tatsumi's significant strength advantage.

#2: Archer tries to get some distance between them to trace something big/use his bow/ activate UBW. Tatsumi is too quick and his senses too sharp to lose him with only 50 meters distance, he catches and folds Archer in short order.

It's possible for Archer to win, but unlikely in these conditions.

1. What Strength advantage? Tatsumi's biggest feat was being able to push the enormous Gundam Robot... and Esdeath was STILL stronger than him by a big deal(Esdeath is Country at her peak if I remember right, Tatsumi is NOT in that same tier). Archer, meanwhile, can create an Arrow capable of destroying an entire Country-Sized Island in one shot. Tatsumi is getting folded hardcore.

2. What Speed advantage? Tatsumi's biggest speed feat would probably be able to dodge a Lightning Bolt, something basic Nasuverse Mages can already do. Meanwhile, Archer can literally react to Lightspeed attacks and how would Tatsumi be able to see or sense where Archer is going in Spirit Form if he wants to create space?

SB'ers are really made of some dumb shit.
 



Normal is not losing an entire arm and treating it like it's nothing major, Normal is getting an enormous Nail going through your hand and worrying if someone else was hurt.
Normal is not literally getting split in half by Heracles and barely even acknowledging the pain. Normal is not being reduced to a virtual walking corpse to your future self and still being alive at the end of the day to fight again like 2-3 minutes later.
Normal is not literally being pummeled to bits, losing bits and pieces of your own memory and self and fucking dying on multiple levels and literally powering through it to save a loved one.

Why the fuck is SB so fucking stupid when it comes to Shirou Emiya? The entire story, his existence isn't fucking normal in the slightest, do people not understand how this shit works?
SB also has users that genuinely think Touma is supposed to be "normal" as well, so yeah. :mjlol
 
SB also has users that genuinely think Touma is supposed to be "normal" as well, so yeah. :mjlol

It honestly flabbergasts me that someone who can watch DEEN Fate/Stay Night, read the VN, Watch Unlimited Blade Works AND Heaven's Feel say that Shirou is a "normal human" because "he gets reduced to chunky salsa by Servants" as if because Heracles doesn't flatten Fuyuki in a single hit somehow takes away from the fact that Shirou can take a hit from him and in in the Main Path? He isn't fucking DEAD.

Q: During the Shirou VS. Rider scene in Saber’s route, why didn’t her daggers kill him? Was it because of the holy sheath embedded within his body? Or was it because his body had begun its swordification?

A: At that time, Shirou’s self-healing had already begun, but the nature of his regeneration was really quite indirect, “changing his muscles into blades in order to knit his wounds with swords.” That is actually what happened, regardless of what you saw during the scene in Saber’s route where Gilgamesh dealt him a mortal wound and Shirou appeared to have “masses of blades shaped like muscle fibers” in his body. So, Shirou’s innards are extremely durable. During the fight with Rider, she was able to injure Shirou with her stakes but it would have been more difficult and troublesome to fatally wound him, so she decided to kick him out the window instead.

Yeah, Shirou's a "Normal Human" alright. Normal Human that Rider in a weakened but still way too much for any Human to handle state, decided that she couldn't eviscerate Shirou as he's too durable and troublesome to fatally wound and decided to kick him out the window... IN THE FATE ROUTE! Where he doesn't have Archer's Arm and it's just his actual healing ability that he does when he gets hurt which structures the part with mini-swords.

Shirou Emiya vs Medusa (Shinji Matou)
Here, Shinji tells Medusa to not restrain herself. Here, Shirou endures an attack from Medusa. Here, Shirou appears to block a strike aimed for his neck in time for Medusa to stab his blocking arm. Here, Shirou endures being cut by Medusa's strikes numerous times.

Here, Medusa hits Shirou's shoulder. Shirou's body had already started to self heal, so the muscles that were being knit together by swords causes Medusa's dagger to break on impact. Medusa muses she can't kill Shirou with her dagger. Here, Shirou endures a roundhouse kick from Medusa out the window. Here, Medusa's kick tossed him a few dozen meters away. Here, Shirou survives hitting the ground if he summons Artoria (here, in the bad end, he doesn't, his body overproduces the swords for some reason... the fuck's the difference?). Here, the Tiger Dojo confirms Shirou would normally die from Medusa's kick without his body reinforcing itself with swords.
 
There is a big difference, being able to spend subjective years thinking about something allows for much more well thought out actions by comparison. This very fast perception time is part of how they will definitly come up with the counter. They have essentially multiple years to think of it before Accelerator can even think to start saying word.

But why do the Culture's ships having fast processing speed apply to their reactions but it doesn't for Accelerator? :hm
 


But why do the Culture's ships having fast processing speed apply to their reactions but it doesn't for Accelerator? :hm
because astaro is banned
 
How strong is Shirou anyways? 🤔

To put it simply:

In F/SN, he's durable enough that Shinji Medusa's Nail(Her weapon) broke against his muscles and she found him too much of a pain to kill and just kicked him out the window(Nasu and Tiger Dojo outright say Medusa would have killed him instantly with the kick if his regen didn't activate at this time and even in this state, Medusa is capable of summoning Belleophron and is stronger than Rin by a decent magnitude(like several times in terms of Magical energy as a comparison).

He's also capable of actually fighting and keeping up with Gilgamesh and Heracles with Caliburn for atleast a good few seconds and doesn't turn to paste when they clash(though he does end up with broken bones which are mended later on).

He's probably Island+ here

UBW, has him be able to use UBW and copied basically what Archer used which should include Caladbolg II, which while it's ranked down one by the original, Caladbolg is a Continental Buster(In FGO America Manga) and effortlessly can destroy a Country sized Island(In FGO Agartha) with a weaker version of the owner but with the same weapon.
So Shirou should be Continental if he summons it, otherwise his regen is still the same here.

HF, has him fully copy EMIYA's stats and while he can't use UBW, he has full access to all of the Projections EMIYA has and can fully copy the stats of any Servants weapons he can project. His Regeneration and EMIYA's arm is on complete overdrive so he will turn into a potato eventually but he's so hard to damage, not even Shadows, built to deal with Servants and can instantly vape any Humans they touch, can't break through them whatsoever.

Shirou should be the same as UBW but his durability should be far higher by comparison.

Of course, this is my spitballing here because I kinda forgot where we actually placed him in terms of power vs. EMIYA but at the end of the day, Shirou should be only slightly weaker than EMIYA is at the grand scheme of things.
 
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