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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Gordo

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he still solos
 

OtherGalaxy

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Honestly, I use the Dub as it's alot more clear in what it does.
GER has control over the concept of Truth not just in actions but in the metaphorical sense.
He "killed" Diavolo but as he controls the concept of Truth, he will never allow him to reach the actual Truth of that action in the same way he can deny others to reach the Truth of their actions.



This is shit you genuinely need to prove. You are basically acting like VSB Nasuverse stans right now.
eh im skeptical of using dubs for something like this
though we are less than a year? from the official translations being done, so comparing those to the (really good) fansubbed manga is worth looking at

but it controls a lot of things, even in its stand page. Actions, willpower, concepts like death etc. “multiply anything by 0” is pretty apt as long as you don’t get into nlf territory


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ngl though I still don’t fully get the case for multiversal GER. I think Fang said it had to do with manipulating three versions of the universe at once or something (and I would assume also, the timeline he creates for Diavolo to die in which GER specifies is a different reality “the future you see is reality but you will never get there” etc etc)

if the billions of phases shit eventually gets accepted then that should be beyond what GER has shown
 

Paxton

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eh im skeptical of using dubs for something like this
though we are less than a year? from the official translations being done, so comparing those to the (really good) fansubbed manga is worth looking at

but it controls a lot of things, even in its stand page. Actions, willpower, concepts like death etc. “multiply anything by 0” is pretty apt as long as you don’t get into nlf territory


im
ngl though I still don’t fully get the case for multiversal GER. I think Fang said it had to do with manipulating three versions of the universe at once or something (and I would assume also, the timeline he creates for Diavolo to die in which GER specifies is a different reality “the future you see is reality but you will never get there” etc etc)

if the billions of phases shit eventually gets accepted then that should be beyond what GER has shown
Don't forget, there's also the narration stating that Othinus can control (and likely destroy) infinite worlds :mjgrin

With world in the context of MGs referring to the universe + Phases, aka the Surface World (it's Kabbalah shit, long story)
 
They don't take place in the same physical space, they're explicitly described as other worlds/dimensions multiple times.

Are you serious?

That doesn't matter, it's in the same damn space at the end of the day!
By that logic, Textures in the Nasuverse are in the same field and that's not how that works!

It's the same shit with DBZ too.

eh im skeptical of using dubs for something like this
though we are less than a year? from the official translations being done, so comparing those to the (really good) fansubbed manga is worth looking at

but it controls a lot of things, even in its stand page. Actions, willpower, concepts like death etc. “multiply anything by 0” is pretty apt as long as you don’t get into nlf territory


im
ngl though I still don’t fully get the case for multiversal GER. I think Fang said it had to do with manipulating three versions of the universe at once or something (and I would assume also, the timeline he creates for Diavolo to die in which GER specifies is a different reality “the future you see is reality but you will never get there” etc etc)

if the billions of phases shit eventually gets accepted then that should be beyond what GER has shown

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter regardless, they operate the same way and reach the same end.
 

NostalgiaFan

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Then what sort of ability is it in your own words?


I'm not purposefully being dense, I'm just trying to have a discussion here.
Your trying to worm in a way for No Aru to win, failing at it I might add. GER's hax is a simple "fuck you, go back to zero" that covers a variety of abilities and haxes as shown from the fact it can tell a time manipulator to piss of in it's very first appearance and it is stated in the Manga that it's ability has effects over wills, actions, and even death. There is really no way to term like we normally do since it is not a single defined ability since it covers multiple haxes and abilities all on it's own.
 

Paxton

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That doesn't matter, it's in the same damn space at the end of the day!
By that logic, Textures in the Nasuverse are in the same field and that's not how that works!

It's the same shit with DBZ too.




Ultimately, it doesn't really matter regardless, they operate the same way and reach the same end.
Those are completely different scenarios and you know it. Phases are explicitly outside of the physical universe.
 

Paxton

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Your trying to worm in a way for No Aru to win, failing at it I might add. GER's hax is a simple "fuck you, go back to zero" that covers a variety of abilities and haxes as shown from the fact it can tell a time manipulator to piss of in it's very first appearance and it is stated in the Manga that it's ability has effects over wills, actions, and even death. There is really no way to term like we normally do since it is not a single defined ability since it covers multiple haxes and abilities all on it's own.
I'm asking a genuine question, get off your high horse.
 
@OtherGalaxy That's if it does get accepted and the Phases are completely and utterly separate from the Main Universe itself.
If they occupy the same space, it would still be Universal regardless just like in DBS.

Those are completely different scenarios and you know it. Phases are explicitly outside of the physical universe.

Astaro literally compared them before and you know it! Don't you go and lie to me now.
 

Blade

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first, lay off the blunt for a bit :mjlol


secondly, gers power worked on both the present (erased) temporal universe and the future/time skipped one, and killing someone outside the flow of time is not the same as being reset to zero.

kc was the side effect of its time-skipping to a future time-locked universes is the present/past one gets temporarily erased. GER is multiversal in range and scope, GER does not need or care about things like space, distance, reality, or concepts or actions. It can remove those all to the value of zero. It did this to lolvolo while technically erased from existence during kc's time erasure. That is why ger is a big deal.
 

Paxton

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@OtherGalaxy That's if it does get accepted and the Phases are completely and utterly separate from the Main Universe itself.
If they occupy the same space, it would still be Universal regardless just like in DBS.



Astaro literally compared them before and you know it! Don't you go and lie to me now.
How exactly did he compare them?

They're both layers of reality that hold their respective mythologies, but that's where the similarities end.

Phases by their very nature can't exist in the same plane/space as the normal physical universe, otherwise sparks & sprays resulting from their collision with each other and falling down onto the physical universe couldn't cause causality/fate to get fucked up so hard.
 
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