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To be fair to you, you did question whether Phenom killed Psychic so behaviourally it lines up, but you're also an good N1 target for a block
The problem with the block thing though is that I would then need to assume that neither the doctor nor the cop nor the voyeur that works like a cop were blocked last night at all.
I'd disregard CP's result in general because good chance it was manipulated. Whether they anticipated it being on Fuji or not is another matter entirely.
Which really comes back to Phen0m. Honestly his claim around targeting CP doesn't make sense for the fact that apparently only Alco targeted him too, which would require scum to leave CP untouched as well. What scum does this lol? They have two dangerous investigative roles and they just do nothing about them?
I don't have a better lynch here. I'm aware if he flips scum I'm going to have a fun Day 5 with how people have tied me to Phenom but I'd rather be right than wrong so, I think he's my lynch for today.
It's just a Jack of Investigative Trades.
This is decent but I suspect he initially read it as a Hider and thought he'd get scum from it.
I can see the reasoning behind a scum Ekko but I don't think it's likely, not due to his play but for me it requires too many assumptions around the scum team choosing suboptimal targets at the risk of being exposed by two separate investigative roles.
Alco being kidnapped and then killed off just fits perfectly in my mind with Phenom wanting to claim Alco targeted CP too. It's so convenient actually, am I to believe that scum felt the doctor was more of a threat they needed to get rid of than any of the investigators?
Can‘t stop thinking about this, so I‘m going to put this out there before I finally go to bed.
I have a hard time reconciling Ratchet‘s LR usage from a Town Ratchet pov as well. He knew CP could potentially get a shot off, as Town he would also think Phenom might get his ability off and catch scum, and scum would just never not kill Phenom there, so using his bus drive instead of the LR just seems like the more optimal choice here when he risks cucking all the remaining Town PR claimers from using their third shots.
That being said, I can still see him do that as Town if he thought the benefits outweighed the risks, but not sure they actually would have here. Just some food for thought.
And with that I‘m going to bed fr. GN.
I have a hard time reconciling Ratchet‘s LR usage from a Town Ratchet pov as well. He knew CP could potentially get a shot off, as Town he would also think Phenom might get his ability off and catch scum, and scum would just never not kill Phenom there, so using his bus drive instead of the LR just seems like the more optimal choice here when he risks cucking all the remaining Town PR claimers from using their third shots.
That being said, I can still see him do that as Town if he thought the benefits outweighed the risks, but not sure they actually would have here. Just some food for thought.
And with that I‘m going to bed fr. GN.
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I mean, that's what he says about TAT. You buy the invest JOAT? I've never seen that shit before.
I mean, it's pretty obvious why I would. We were coming off the third mislynch, most abilities have 2 shots and by driving all actions to me I either
a) Prevent the faction kill if I'm protected
b) Am killed instead
Given that I'm a PoE slot, having the mafia kill me instead forces them to kill a potential mislynch, and that's in the worst case out of my useage. If CP had another cop shot, I am *also* cleared too, and if Phenom was town, he'd get a list of evry active ability remaining in the game, alongside the number of scum.
There was also the potential to use it to test investigative claims as long as it wasn't made clear in the writeup it was used (which also would have confirmed me) because things like watchers would have a lot of results if it had worked as intended (which also gives the benefit of exposing fake vanilla claims).
So the question I would ask is do you really have a hard time reconciling this, or have you just not really tried to? I'm inclined to think the latter, leaving my lightning rod until night 4 would only really offer exactly b) without anything else, which isn't terrible, but I think there is a wealth of information to be had while some shots are floating around. I don't really think you considered any of this, so it's pretty funny to preach what is optimal or not here. More dreck.
I do, in that each are weaker investigative types and if he's scum he'd have set out to make this claim well in advance (right back to talking about the heavy number of investigative roles yesterday). In fact f you look over his day 2 play under the mindset that he's town, while there is a lot of nonsense still some of his reasoning checks out.
See above.
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Alco was for sure enslaved with a bomb collar.
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@Ekkologix you promise you thought TAT was basically a hider?
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You think they've been trying to bus each other the whole game or what?Lynch kekko or Phenom
To be honest, I don't know why you have more issue with Ekko's claim than you do Phen0m's. Ekko claims Watcher and the varient that tracks the dead, which are all weaker than cops. Phenom claims to get the ability type used on a target, which is weaker than a cop, and also the number of mafia on them, which can outright confirm a bunch of players in one night. If say Gram was targeted by three people, and none of them were scum, that would be three confirmed non-mafia in one shot. If there is any ability that can't co-exist with a cop here, it's his.
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You think Phenom got just a straight up fake vig claim from Ultra?
No, but he did only claim one-shot in the end. It's obviously a risk, but if for example they have no protective roles they could surmise it. And he could always just fall back on JoAT too. It's the strongest element of his claim, you saw me make this exact point yesterday in defence of him, but at this stage I'm required to assume a lot to read him town. Noted that you are changing the point here, though. Have you got anything else to add re: what I said regarding his role?
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Not changing the point, just thinking everything through. I do feel like Phenom coming so hard after Psychic after she survived his kill doesn't scream like fake scum setting up a mislynch. His game play has been non-existent besides stuff around his own role and actions. The voyeur claim with the vig claim did throw me off and his voyeur seems unnecessarily super charged.
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