Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4: Outskirts Ningen Dome - Laughing edition

[Tablos]

he also outspeeds Crazy Diamond at point blank range lol

it’s so dumb man. The bullet train thing is an analogy Jotaro uses to explain that even if Pucci is faster they can still see him coming. But SB genuinely believes JoJo characters cap out at supersonic at most and that every single ftl feat and statement is wrong somehow when there’s like 5 of them and Araki consistently brings up the speed of light

They do the exact shit in Nasu threads with Enkidu speed or Naruto because ''guns>ninjas''.
Men i remember the good old times , when you post some feats and calcs and then compare which one is higher.

Now is ''this post with alot of scans , calcs , scaling and statements is now invalid because is against my headcanon in the fanfic subforum''

 

[Astaro]

also looking at that post they’re using the emperor bullet feat to discount chariot outspeeding lasers three times after that happened

it would only be a contradictory feat if it were the other way around. all his ftl feats occur later, same with star platinum’s so any bullet related “low ends” no longer apply. It’s like arguing that Goku couldn’t bust a planet in 23rd budokai so he can’t do it on Namek either

Plus theres the fact that the Emperor is a Stand. It’s bullets are anything but ordinary rounds

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Plus theres the fact that the Emperor is a Stand. It’s bullets are anything but ordinary rounds

pol even says stopping a bullet is easy, it’s the directional switch that screws him over

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

10 Anime That Overstayed Their Welcomes

Even the greatest anime from Pokémon to Bleach ran for far too many episodes, overstaying their welcome and ultimately hurting themselves.

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Get the fuck outta here

>FLCL outstayed its welcome

Bruh it's 6 episodes long

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

The Death Battles Thread

I know, right? It's just that I want them to high-ball the Dragonborn, so, so, so much that the rest of the Internet will begin to look at the Elder Scrolls in VS Debates with much more scrutiny.

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The Death Battles Thread

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That's hardly lower end for the Dragonborn.

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That version of Elder Scrolls is literally rotten cancer, and if they lowball both sides then I'd much prefer that than what you're suggested. Depends on the soul gem I think, and at best it would take one soul per gem, and the CU even early on has a whole lot of souls.

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Possibly maybe in a story considered dubious inverse. Even if true there isn't much of a case to scale the Dragonborn to the event as nothing of that scale happened in their encounter. Not that that would stop DB.

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SB already trying to say TES is 'too vague' to use feats for.

Behold the vagueness.

Todd Howard: The greybeards, the guys who live up on the throat of the world, who are the masters of the voice, they find out about this fairly quickly, and they shout your name. They shout Dovahkiin to the wind, and it kind of rumbles through the world. The mountains shake when they call you. And you think ‘what was that,’ and someone says ‘that was the greybeards calling you. To walk the 7,000 steps up the throat of the world to meet them.'

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

Wait that last one isn't a feat because it wasn't actually an explosion except it was an explosion when Vrythur used his power to throw all the rubble in every direction except Dovahkiin's and Seranas.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

if they said dark souls was too vague, I could actually understand that. One of the reasons I prefer debating Elden Ring, it’s way less obtuse about nearly everything.

But TES goes into insane detail about all kinds of crazy shit happening. Vagueness is not the issue there

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

pol even says stopping a bullet is easy, it’s the directional switch that screws him over

It was and they still act like The Emperor is only as fast as a Bullet which isn't even true either as we literally have Jotaro being able to have Star Platinum unconsciously grab bullets at point blank range.
They legit believe that you need true proof that if someone fires a gun that is obviously stronger and fire faster than a normal gun, you need proof or they will treat it as a basic bitch gun.

What makes this even more insane is that AVDOL was able to outspeed Emperor's gun to save Polnareff! Nothing they say about it makes sense whatsoever.

>FLCL outstayed its welcome

Bruh it's 6 episodes long

They are most likely also adding in Progressive and Alternative to that as well as a potential new show they want to do as well... but how is any of that overstaying it's welcome at all when you combine it together and barely get 40-50 episodes(Hell, I'm probably giving that too much as those series combined was only slightly longer than the original FLCL)? I have seen shows that have well outstayed their welcome harder than FLCL ever could.

EDIT: Yep, I did give it too much, both Alternative & Progressive was as long as FLCL was so combining those 2 gave you the episode ratio of... 18 episodes... wow, such outstaying welcome.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

^yeah everything about that scene actually isn’t even consistent with itself
even if you want to argue subsonic Stands based on that scene, you have to also accept…fastest character in the series Avdol?


OR get this…the author who constantly namedrops the speed of light and goes out of his way to use real light in every scene involving it, might have been interested in explaining his characters were faster than light! imagine that

 

[Astaro]

JoJo Stands cap at 300/KPH Galaxy-kun. COPE

 

[Astaro]

Hilariously, the same Crazy Diamond that supposedly caps at 300 KPH still has a feat of stopping a point blank gunshot

 

[OtherGalaxy]

i think the meteors Jolyne stopped being subsonic may have been their dumbest argument though

because Araki goes into great detail about how the meteors work and the average speed for meteors that maintain their contrails is like mach 23 (i think calcs have even gotten her into the mach 400 range based on how she handled them)

but they insisted they were actually slower than sound and also that “jolyne had trouble with bullets earlier”

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

i think the meteors Jolyne stopped being subsonic may have been their dumbest argument though

because Araki goes into great detail about how the meteors work and the average speed for meteors that maintain their contrails is like mach 23 (i think calcs have even gotten her into the mach 400 range based on how she handled them)

but they insisted they were actually slower than sound and also that “jolyne had trouble with bullets earlier”

The problem they ignore with that isn't the fact that "Joylne has issues with bullets" and more "Joylne is in a small ass space on both sides where officers will shoot her dead for trespassing", something the show explicitly points out why Joylne was terrified of being made bigger in that space.

It wouldn't matter how fast your Stand is in such a small space when you would be killed by one wayward bullet at that.
And I'm pretty sure it was like the first few episodes where she had no real idea of how to even use her Stand properly(Even moreso than Jotaro and almost as bad as Koichi)

 

[OtherGalaxy]

just remembered they also used the “why didn’t star platinum punch more knives in 1 second” when

THE WORLD threw those knives
and SP could barely move in time at all during then

if you want to get mad he didn’t clear them all that wouldnt make sense even if he was only half the speed of sound

thats my issue with their speed argument, it isnt based on the speed being inaccurate its based on their own subjective perception of what “should” and “should not” work

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

just remembered they also used the “why didn’t star platinum punch more knives in 1 second” when

THE WORLD threw those knives
and SP could barely move in time at all during then

if you want to get mad he didn’t clear them all that wouldnt make sense even if he was only half the speed of sound

thats my issue with their speed argument, it isnt based on the speed being inaccurate its based on their own subjective perception of what “should” and “should not” work

The issue with their argument is that they completely ignore the fact that just because Time has Stopped doesn't mean the MOMENTUM still isn't fixed.
Which as you stated is filtered under their own terrible perception of what "should" and "shouldn't work".
We have seen them do this constantly with the Nasuverse(Holy shit at the level of reach you have to move to not give Servants Relativistic-Lightspeed movement despite that being a constant even in F/SN or to give it to Servants that explicitly fuck with Light), Naruto(They have literally ignored every strength feat, durability feat and speed feat outside of the insane top tiers to pretend Demon Slayer rolls over them when even Part 1 KN0 Naruto from the Forest of Death would mop up the entire verse, let alone Zabuza or Kakashi), Star Wars(Ignore the EU entirely as they see fit) and so on and so forth.

Jojo is just another brand of that subjectivity to them because they ignore when the characters themselves due insane shit outside of human bounds(Again both Avdol and Josuke have dodged bullets at pointblank range), let alone their Stands(Like Giorno's being able to knock Cars around with a single punch, same with Jotaro and Star Platinum against Wheel of Fortune, Star Platinum grabbing a bullet at point blank unconsciously or Silver Chariot being consistently stated to move atleast as fast as Light yet Star Platinum keeping up with it AND Anubis which can further SPEED THEIR MOVEMENTS UP)

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Kidd/Katakuri/Doflamingo/King (OP) vs Quilge/As Nodt/Ulquiorra/Starrk (Bleach)

Location: Soul Society No restrictions To death or complete incap. Both teams bloodlusted and members willing to work together Distance: 500m

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Ulquirroa and Starrk shouldn't even be on the list as they are just dead weight.

Yoriichi Tsugikuni (Demon Slayer) vs Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach)

He said he lied to Aizen - the Mach 500 statement was when he was talking to Ichigo. We don't know what he told Aizen. It's worth noting that the databook corroborates his Mach 500 statement.

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He said he lied to Aizen - the Mach 500 statement was when he was talking to Ichigo. We don't know what he told Aizen.
It's worth noting that the databook corroborates his Mach 500 statement.

I keep seeing SB bring this up but how is that collaborates with Gin's statement? That he later stated is false and isn't as fast or as long as he states it? So he's lying about lying about his Zanpaktou abilities? Do they not realize Gin was testing Ichigo if he can defeat Aizen or not during that fight, why the hell would he lie about his abilities to him?
Does SB not realize that Databooks can be wrong or they believe Bleach's is a direct difference maker?

I have seen FGO Databooks change character heights at points(Which doesn't matter anyway as you then have it be changed in the anime or manga anyway) as well as add little details to their backstories or characters they never showed ingame. Then you have shit like Naruto's databooks...

 

[Cryso Agori]

Conquest of Re-Estize (Overlord) Force Add/What If, Hive Fleet Behemoth Splinter(40k)

Firstly my point was that -the video Nyarla linked- had been edited and didn't contain the bit. Here is the literal last frame we get of it from that video. For actual fuck sake. Your gifs. For an entirely different fucking video which isn't edited which you could have just posted instead of...

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Thank god some people still have enough sense in them to realize the bullshit

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

demon moons attack Enies Lobby (Demon Slayer vs One Piece)

I am honestly far more annoyed at the prominence of messages, such as yours here and I imagine others if I am remembering the name at the head of multiple comments like this one, appearing constantly.

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I am honestly far more annoyed at the prominence of messages, such as yours here and I imagine others if I am remembering the name at the head of multiple comments like this one, appearing constantly.

Because everyone who comes to that forum who isn't retarded or a raging fanboy knows for a fact Demon Slayer isn't anywhere near as powerful as people love to wank it.
Is it more powerful than people say it is? Yeah sure, Supersonic+, maybe higher if you push certain feats around at Building to MCB again if you push certain feats around...
But anyone who legit believes that Naruto outside of KCM2 Naruto and above can't beat Demon Slayer seriously needs to rewatch Naruto something fierce.

Can't comment on the validity of the last sentence since i know next to nothing of one piece but it seems to me DS matchups are hard for people to make because of the mix of people who Wank or for some other reason put them against matchups that are out of their league or The thread actually has DS downplay and people say that they are outgunned when in actuality it's much closer then some put it.
That's my take on the matter anyway as for the thread i dont know enough about one piece to say for sure but from what i hear not much of a chance for the moons.

No, I have seen people say that Rin Tohsaka would be instantly ganked by an Upper Moon member when she saw Heracles try and speedblitz Shirou on Day 3 and warn him of it among her even being able to actually move at levels like a Servant when she needs to. I have seen people state she is weak physically when we literally have seen her fight against Luvia in the UBW Anime and even after breaking the ground and hitting each other full force, they only have superficial wounds at the end of the day.

I have seen people say Zabuza would get destroyed by Yoriichi when KN0 Naruto is able to hold off a huge ass Boss Summon Snake when his own body and the SAME KN0 beat the brakes off of Haku and yet that boy was able to not only still stand but intercept Kakashi fucking Hatake when he tried to kill Zabuza. The same Kakashi and Zabuza Naruto couldn't do jackshit to even with a fucking WATER CLONE fighting him and Kakashi who was able to block a killer swing from Zabuza with a single hand only aided by the metal part of his glove.

Hell, I have seen people actually try and say that Demon Slayer is really, really strong due to absolutely insane use of ABC Logic that also includes every Demon Tanjirou faced must have been physically and defensively stronger than the last when that's not true at all. Again, alot of the Early Demons was still only just as tough as the Demon in the Tryouts was, they only had esoteric abilities that Tanjirou had issues with and it was until Rui and his family(A Lower Moon) is when Tanjirou truly faced a difficult opponent he couldn't easily defeat.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Conquest of Re-Estize (Overlord) Force Add/What If, Hive Fleet Behemoth Splinter(40k)

Firstly my point was that -the video Nyarla linked- had been edited and didn't contain the bit. Here is the literal last frame we get of it from that video. For actual fuck sake. Your gifs. For an entirely different fucking video which isn't edited which you could have just posted instead of...

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Thank god some people still have enough sense in them to realize the bullshit

Remember, TheOneBellowAll is a MASSIVE Overlord wanker to the point someone went WELL out of their way to call them on their shit so hard, most of the Overlord wank was scaled back because of it:

Nazarick vs All Singularity,Psudo Singularity,Lostbelt Gauntlet

As an overlord fan. I find this wank appalling. The "meteor spell" that was used only destroyed a city wall at most. At most it would crack/break something a like single petal of Emiya's Rho Aias. Demiurge literally notes that some of people (workers) that invaded the Tomb could literally...

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Remember, you have Overlord fans so fucking dedicated, one got assblasted Albedo(Let alone the entirety of Nazarick) can't easily roll over Type-Oort Cloud because that's how it works in Overlord right?

 

[Astaro]

Just one. And said Albedo simp got shot down by even other Overlord fans on there