Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4: Outskirts Ningen Dome - Laughing edition
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Why pray tell would Ryuken's lack of schrift or vollstanding keep him from being Exiled level, despite him consistently being shown around Isshin (even having their powers revealed back to back and showing up to the war together)?
Also Masaki had neither of those things and still had better feats than most of the Nazis who did.
How the fuck is Ryuken not at that level?! Are we reaching SB levels of downplaying EBTR Isshin to being weaker than SS Arc Byakuya now!?
We have seen fucking Masaki kill White in one good blow to the head and nothing states she's stronger than Ryuken who has shown ludicrous speed and precision(It's like people miss his feat with Uryu getting his powers back or something) and have no issues braining Adjuchas Hollows in one shot either.
Like holy shit, dude earned his fucking keep and it's pretty obvious he's on Isshin's level at the very least.
EDIT: Like hold the fuck up, Quilge literally states Uryu should be above him in power or in terms of his arrows and that was before the Schrift bullshit. Ryuken absolutely is at the level of a Sternritter at the very least based on Quilge's own observations of where the family line of Ishida is at.
That right there is kind of the main problem.
Most of these idiots DO believe Ulquiorra is not only stronger than the other Espada, but considerably so. To the point he is often specifically excluded/banned from threads matching characters against the Espada as a whole.
Either because "Lanza make big boom" or because "H2 is some big percentage of Dangai/EoS Ichigo and he matched a Cero with CO", completely ignoring the training that was required for Ichigo to actually reach those levels.
They only really seem to acknowledge Gremmy, Royd and the Elites as beating him, that's it.
Pretty much, but try telling them that.
What the fuck genuinely makes R2 Ulquirroa stronger than every other Espada!? Big Booms? The Anime showed that every Espada after Ulquirroa, including Zero Yammy being able to make huge booms or cover a huge radius with their attacks.
His Regeneration? Ulquirroa literally stated he sacrificed power for that which if anything, makes him weaker than the other Espada.
Because he hid it from Aizen? You fucking shitting me? Aizen fathomed Gin was going to kill him and put into his plans and only didn't know how, he very much knew about R2 considering he explicitly left Ulquirroa with Orihime to advance Ichigo's growth.
... No, no, no, no, Hell no, Fuck no.
H2 Ichigo is not anything close to Dangai or EoS Ichigo, not even fucking close. H2 Ichigo is literally just his Zanpaktou/Hollow getting even stronger just like Ichigo himself did and fully showing off how powerful he has become.
Dangai has some level of excuse but H2 never did as there's no Quincy powers there of any kind and Zangetsu himself stated that as Ichigo got stronger, so. Did. He!
They only really seem to acknowledge Gremmy, Royd and the Elites as beating him, that's it.
...Bro, those Sternritter would make him their bitch, holy shit do they wank this fucker hardcore...
Grimmjow would murder R2 Ulquirroa and that's before Kubo confirming Grimmjow can learn R2 himself.
I shouldn't have to but holy shit is the FV Bleach Subforum cancer for this. Like Shunsui literally admitted Hitsugaya will surpass him in 100 years time. Hitsugaya has shown insane gains through each arc to the point the only times he was seriously put on the ropes was from Shawlong(Due to the Limiter debacle explicitly stated as the second it was off Toshirou instantly murdered him despite being at death's door),
Harribel(Done PURPOSEFULLY due to not wanting to take out any allies during his big attack)
and Bazzard Black(Due to his Bankai being taken away, you can't even excuse this one considering there was only 2 Captains that did even remotely decently without it and one was YAMAMOTO)
Toshirou would treat R2 Ulquirroa like fodder without his Adult Form needed.
I was halfway wrong, the new JoJonium translations do say one second...but they also specify he only could move long enough to throw a single punch with SP, so yeah either not literal in this case or he spent most of that time waiting for the right opening. Any random guy off the street can throw a punch faster than a second so
What had one more transformation from the rest of the Espadas that according to him not even Aizen knew about.
It lends itself to a lot of discussion if having one more transformation makes him stronger or something like that.
And if you go to other materials in a novel it is mentioned that the previous strongest Espada called Cien Granz who was stronger than the current Espadas reached a reiatsu similar to that of Ichigo full hollow when he defeated Ulquiorra according to Uryu, of course all this reasoning is only valid or debatable with pre-time skip versions.
And yet Aizen specifically left HIM to bring out more of Ichigo's Hollow powers, the only Espada with a second release?
Purely by coincidence I guess.
The issue here is that to assume this transformation alone is enough to put him over, you have to assume the gap between Ulquiorra and the Espada higher ranked than him is small to start with.
Which is blatantly not the case, especially when you're comparing him to the likes of the often downplayed Stark, given the sheer disparity of Harribel struggling with Vaizard Lieutenants while her superior is styling on Vaizard Captains the second he stops holding back.
That particular novel isn't canon, the only one that is canon is CFYOW which doesn't have Cien Granz or any of that shit.
True but we should also remember Jotaro has to put everything into it to even get that second so it's not as weak as they put it at either, remember.
Yeah, that's precisely the big problem right there.
Even if we take in stuff like Cien Granz(Which seems to be canon considering the Novels further covered his clone's existence helping Ashido against the Quincy Soldiers in the Hollow Forest), it doesn't really work out for Ulquirroa either because H2 Ichigo literally babyshaked the fuck out of him and the only damage Ulquirroa did to him was break a part of his mask... which is the weakest part of a Hollow anyway(Even when it saved Ichigo, it was more softening the blow rather than any real protection).
Post Time Skip, this is instantly gone because we clearly see the Captains got stronger to a ludicrous extent and it wasn't the fact that the Fullbringers wasn't a threat at all, they was just outpaced outside of Tsukishima and Ginjou. The Sternritter even moreso made the Captains look pathetic even BEFORE their Bankai was stolen and even afterwards, they had to get further ridiculous boosts AND STILL fight to their near deaths to win(Even RENJI's stomp battle against Mask De Masculine required him to sleep for like 6-8 hours before he was refreshed meaning he still had to put in his paces to win)
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It doesn't really.
You either prove it with concrete showings or not . I don't care what you assume or what you think .
That's how this hobby works .
And yet Aizen specifically left HIM to bring out more of Ichigo's Hollow powers, the only Espada with a second release, purely by coincidence I guess.
This is what really gets me:
Aizen somehow didn't know about Ulquirroa's 2nd release but he left Ulquirroa there to guard Orihime, Orihime a person who was there as a DECOY TO STRAND THE CAPTAINS. Something that can't be easily changed back because even when Mayuri was able to create the portal, only Unohana and Ichigo was able to get back meaning none of the other Captains would have been able to return even if we count Byakuya and Kenpachi still fighting Yammy.
Why in the fuck would Aizen leave Ulquirroa, the 4th Espada, to guard a target that was literally just a decoy that he knew Ichigo is attached to heavily rather than help his ass in the front lines against the Captains? Unless it's as Aizen stated that he was grooming Ichigo to be the final leap to reach the Royal Palace?
To be fair, Harribel struggled with a future Captain(Lisa), Someone who was able to clown Post Soul Society Arc Shikai Ichigo with a non-released Zanpaktou and just her Hollow Mask(Hiyori) and Hitsugaya at the same time, all 3 having released Shikai... after she was frozen by Hitsugaya's big attack for a good bit of time.
And even then, you can say Harribel stalemated all 3 because we see that she literally has no wounds or is even tired fighting the 3 of them at once when Aizen takes her out... and it STILL requires an extra attack(Which Aizen was PISSED he had to do) to keep her down.
You are downplaying Harribel yourself FYI
Oh I'm not denying the Vaizard Lieutenants are really strong, easily captain level in their own right by any reasonable standards, or trying to insinuate Harribel is weak because of her performance against them.To be fair, Harribel struggled with a future Captain(Lisa), Someone who was able to clown Post Soul Society Arc Shikai Ichigo with a non-released Zanpaktou and just her Hollow Mask(Hiyori) and Hitsugaya at the same time, all 3 having released Shikai... after she was frozen by Hitsugaya's big attack for a good bit of time.
And even then, you can say Harribel stalemated all 3 because we see that she literally has no wounds or is even tired fighting the 3 of them at once when Aizen takes her out... and it STILL requires an extra attack(Which Aizen was PISSED he had to do) to keep her down.
You are downplaying Harribel yourself FYI
Only emphasizing the readily apparent gap between her and Stark as he was taking on the Captains of the people Harribel was stalemating (and we have no reason to believe they've close the gap between them and their superiors) and styling all over them.
Harribel sure as shit ain't weak, not trying to downplay the future queen, Stark's just a lot fucking stronger (pre-skip at least).
The main point being that this notion of there not being much of a difference in power between Espada's 1 - 4 (therefore allowing R2 to push Ulquiorra above his superiors) is complete nonsense.
Okay, I got your point now I was only talking about the Harribel example there but yes, there is very obvious gaps between each Espada and where they are ranked(Outside of Yammy that is all power and no substance) and how well they fared against each Captain. So you have to pretend R2 Ulquirroa somehow pushes him to absolutely insane heights which makes no sense considering that means Ichigo would have to suddenly get insane gains even as soon as R1 Ulquirroa for that to make sense or somehow Ulquirroa was fucking with him the entire fight which is... no.
We'd also have to ignore Ulquiorra himself specifying that there are three Espada stronger than him, during a moment where he and Ichigo are alone and he has absolutely no reason to lie about it.
@Thegoldenboy2188 I actually found it:
forums.spacebattles.com
The Fanfic he made that even SB was like "Yeah no, that's not how this works".
He did a few more too at that:
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Ultimate Horny One( Overlord/Fate Crossover)
Basically, Albedo met Oort Cloud and decided to do some exercise for future purposes.
forums.spacebattles.com The Fanfic he made that even SB was like "Yeah no, that's not how this works".
He did a few more too at that:
No Man's Dawn (Overlord/FGO Crossover)
What if Momonga became the Beast of Solitude in the Grand Order? Here's an example.
forums.spacebattles.com Satoru Emiya(Overlord/FSN Crossover)
Suzuki Satoru reincarnated as Shirou Emiya. And thus, he changed the entire plot itself.
forums.spacebattles.com The Undying Heroes( Overlord/Fate Crossover)
Ainz found himself on Fate Earth and accidentally founded the organization called NAOG.
forums.spacebattles.com Sleep to the Undead ( Overlord and Fate/Zero crossover)
Ainz accidentally arrived in the Nasuverse, and found himself being chosen by the Grail as a Master. Will he win the war or bring catastrophe on this world...? Only the time would tell.
forums.spacebattles.com dude specifically says he could only throw one punch so yeah, it isnt exactly the same as they’re making it out to be
How far does Link with a Mecha (TotK) get in Skyrim (Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim)?
I don't have to prove a negative, you have to prove the positive. In this timeline, the "triforce" isn't used as a term and doesn't mean anything, it's at best symbolic. Which is why in this timeline the god-like beings are the zonai and they use those magic accessories.
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