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They stomp 99% of the setting then. Only ones worth anything are the shards, and Chaos Gods which are super conditional if you want to fight them. Any direct confrontation will be near impossible.
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Who's ice is colder Adult Hitsugaya's or Rukia's?
If Rukia's ice is actually colder in bankai, shouldn't that mean she could freeze Gerard solid like Hitsugaya?
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Who's ice is colder Adult Hitsugaya's or Rukia's?
If Rukia's ice is actually colder in bankai, shouldn't that mean she could freeze Gerard solid like Hitsugaya?
It's been a while since I've read Bleach, but isn't that more or less accurate? Rukia can go absolute zero but Hitsugaya can like freeze abilities or something somehow
Basically, that's not what I've an issue with.It's been a while since I've read Bleach, but isn't that more or less accurate? Rukia can go absolute zero but Hitsugaya can like freeze abilities or something somehow
My reaction is more on them trying super hard to separate the two abilities as if they are distinct by specifying Rukia "manipulates temperature" when ultimately they both do basically the same thing, Hitsugaya just has an additional effect on his and is a lot stronger overall.
Muzan and Yoriichi (Demon slayer) vs Alpha and Lucia (Punishing: Gray Raven)
ROB puts Muzan and Yoriichi Against Alpha and Lucia Battle takes place in an empty field with a starting distance of 50 meters, all combatants are in character with standard equipment while bloodlusted. 0 knowledge on each other and sunrise is in 4 hours. Wincons: BFR, Incapacitation, or...
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How weak they think Base Lucia is?! Alpha only worfs her as hard as she does even in her original Frame not due to using the Punishing Virus but due to having to constantly fight to survive and got absurd levels of experience. Lucia alone would still solo the shit out of Demon Slayer otherwise even in Base, the fuck are they on about?!
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Punishing: Gray Raven Discussion, Feats, Lore & Analysis Thread
Punishing: Gray Raven is a 3D online free-to-play action role-playing game for Android and iOS, developed and published by Kuro Game using the Unity Engine. It was first released in China on December 5, 2019, and a year later, on December 4, 2020, in Japan. The global release came out on July...
onelastforum.com Even when Base Lucia gets bodied, she shows feats well outside of Muzan and Yoriichi by leagues.
EDIT #2: Just to put a bow on it from @Papa Nier
Matrix easily allows them to be FTL(And even then, you can say their reactions even without Matrix is LS due to dodging Riot's laser in Chapter 9)
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Adult Hitsugaya vs Yhwach
Round 1 Restrictions: Soul King form, Ability Stealing, Medallion, Yama's Bankai. Almighty. Conditions: Hitsugaya stays in Adult form the entire battle. Mindset: IC with Killing Intent Knowledge: Hitsugaya has full, Yhwach has knowledge on Hitsugaya's bankai in child form. Distance: 5 meters...
www.fanverse.org How the fuck is Hitsugaya going to beat someone powerful enough to take and control Yamamoto's Bankai AND force Ichibei to use more than physical attacks to beat him?
Mustache doesn't need The Almighty to win this.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE YAMAMOTO FALLACY?
Stop making shit up to downplay characters.
Took the Bankai of a stronger character (which gerard was directly stated to be incapable of doing, along with every other Nazi) AND took hits from another stronger character in Ichibei and kept fighting.
He has better feats than any form of Gerard, straight up.
It absolutely is that cut and dry for anyone exercising some basic common sense.
The literal aspect that allowed it to do that in the first place (ie evaporating all the water in the air, which Daiguren Hyourinmaru is dependant on in its base form) is NO LONGER A FUCKING THING.
We literally see him produce ice from his body, meaning he's no longer dependant on the water in the air. This coupled with the obvious extreme power boost he got, makes it completely nonsensical to pretend Yamamoto's Bankai can still just casually neg his.
He WOULD lose to Bankai Yamamoto, but it wouldn't be fucking easy.
You don't have a point to prove here, so no it doesn't.
> Vaizard Captain
> Getting their shit wrecked by R1 Ulquiorra (with or without a mask).
I'd hardly call tagging and smacking Stark to the ground and being powerful enough that Stark admitted nothing short of his strongest attack would do anything to Love and Rose "irrelevant feats".
It's pretty fucking relevant given he's fighting a MUCH weaker Espada here.
Notice how when I call Hisagi doing anything against Tosen an outlier (which it is), this dude calls that cherrypicking.
But he's allowed to call Love's feat against Stark an outlier, when it's actually consistent with the other Vaizard Captain performances.
But of course this is because this idiot takes Grimmjow's performance against Shinji as evidence Shinji is released Grimmjow levels AT BEST, which is why he's calling this an outlier.
> Forced him to stop playing and use his strongest attack.
> Amounted to nothing?
He survived two of Stark's wolves without his Mask so yes.
Wouldn't exactly be hard considering:
- He actually overwhelmed Shikai Shunsui, albeit not at full power yet and matched him even when he was.
- Hachigen alone was able to effectively fight Barragan with his hax being the only reason he needed Soi Fon's help.
- Harribel having a hard time with two Lieutenant Vaizards and one SHIKAI Toshiro.
- Harribel being restrained by a nerfed Toshiro's Bankai, and Stark's reaction to finding out Shunsui's even stronger, being to try and make him use it.
- R1 Ulquiorra not even being able to blitz HM Ichigo or one-shot him outright, at a time when he had only just surpassed Grimmjow.
Adamant bout to have a whole anyurism with these dudes
I can't wrap my head around their thought process, I really can't.Adamant bout to have a whole anyurism with these dudes
ha It's like they're deliberately trying to make Bleach power-scaling more convoluted and a lot less straight forward than it actually is.
Who is the strongest person that Dangai/FKT Ichigo (Bleach) can beat without Mugetsu's drawback?
I know there is a popular debate wheter or not eos ichigo and dangai ichigo is stronger but not picking a side right now but since there is a debate about that then i kinda get the idea that's where dangai ichigo is now and considering that's not talking about him using mugetsu like it's a...
forums.spacebattles.com >EoS Ichigo vs Dangai Ichigo is a popular debate
But Dangai has the flashy "destroy landscape with slash" feats and won his fight so he just "seems more impressive".
Never mind Mustache directly stating that even Shikai EoS Ichigo had the same level of power, so EoS Ichigo is literally Dangai Ichigo with interest.
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Thanks transports himself to Demon Slayer Japan thinking he’ll find a powerful ally and is assaulted by Douma under Muzans orders can the Mad Titan crush the Saint of Sin or Shall Douma have a new ice sculpture? Location Infinity Mansion Morals standard Gear no infinity gauntlet Reward for...
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Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)
Braa it aldready happened already , archer stand no chance end of the debate.
forums.spacebattles.com Well of course EMIYA stands no chance.Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)
Braa it aldready happened already , archer stand no chance end of the debate.
Don't you see, he'll be so busy laughing his ass off at how weak Deku is, that he'll never be able to defeat him.
He has feats if we useDid we ever get ANY real reason to consider Kylo Ren anything noteworthy by Jedi or Sith standards?Strongest sith and strongest Jedi Peak Kylo Ren beats
Which is the strongest sith lord and stronges jedi knight/master he beats Canon in his strongest form
Because from what I remember, he'd be lucky to beat Inquisitors or Fallen Order Cal.
Lego Kylo Ren
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They think that Part 1 Lee can beat War Arc Gai sensei.Who is the strongest person that Dangai/FKT Ichigo (Bleach) can beat without Mugetsu's drawback?
I know there is a popular debate wheter or not eos ichigo and dangai ichigo is stronger but not picking a side right now but since there is a debate about that then i kinda get the idea that's where dangai ichigo is now and considering that's not talking about him using mugetsu like it's a...
>EoS Ichigo vs Dangai Ichigo is a popular debate
Well of course EMIYA stands no chance.
Don't you see, he'll be so busy laughing his ass off at how weak Deku is, that he'll never be able to defeat him.
They legit believe that Nagant is better than EMIYA when it comes to playing sniper because they have no idea what the hell they are talking about.
Thus EMIYA can't do it because "He's always perpetually angry" and his shots are super slow and other garbage.
Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)
That fight was Nagant Fight Izuku. This is current, ENRAGED, Izuku. You know, the kid with Gearshift and strength that will instantly kill Archer on contact. Gearshift automatically means he's speedblitzing Archer due to him absolutely dunking Shigaraki. ESPECIALLY since they are 40 meters apart.
forums.spacebattles.com 1. EMIYA fought against Heracles and took 6 lives, he ain't made out of glass no matter how hard you downplay him.
2. Gearshift (変 (へん) 速 (そく) Hensoku?): The Quirk of the second user. This Quirk allows Izuku to change the speed and/or velocity of any target he touches, including himself. This allows him to greatly accelerate his own speed and/or the velocity of his target, and enhance the impact force of his own strikes. After years of being empowered within One For All, Gearshift has evolved into an unusual power that cannot be wielded the usual way. It has also been designated as a last resort.
This is literally nothing new for any Servant as we have seen them literally avoid inertia when they attack or move on a dime.
3. Again Iskandar and his mounts went from 100 meters to 0 in a blink of an eye and Artoria was able to react to them and attack before the bulls can complete a single step.
That's the slowest you can ever go for a Servant without being as dumb as SB.
EMIYA murders Deku.
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They wank alot MHA but forgot that Servants speed feats are way better , like for SB Spergs a bullet timer like Deku or AllMight is something impressive , while in Nasu we have bullet timers like Hansa or Shiki and both of them are fodder for most servants.Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)
That fight was Nagant Fight Izuku. This is current, ENRAGED, Izuku. You know, the kid with Gearshift and strength that will instantly kill Archer on contact. Gearshift automatically means he's speedblitzing Archer due to him absolutely dunking Shigaraki. ESPECIALLY since they are 40 meters apart.
1. EMIYA fought against Heracles and took 6 lives, he ain't made out of glass no matter how hard you downplay him.
2. Gearshift (変 (へん) 速 (そく) Hensoku?): The Quirk of the second user. This Quirk allows Izuku to change the speed and/or velocity of any target he touches, including himself. This allows him to greatly accelerate his own speed and/or the velocity of his target, and enhance the impact force of his own strikes. After years of being empowered within One For All, Gearshift has evolved into an unusual power that cannot be wielded the usual way. It has also been designated as a last resort.
This is literally nothing new for any Servant as we have seen them literally avoid inertia when they attack or move on a dime.
3. Again Iskandar and his mounts went from 100 meters to 0 in a blink of an eye and Artoria was able to react to them and attack before the bulls can complete a single step
That's the slowest you can ever go for a Servant without being as dumb as SB.
EMIYA murders Deku.
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