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[Hans Tweetenberg]

Wrong, I said you converged with that read, and blew it off as mere coincidence. I believe what you're doing here is what you would call "gaslighting" as I already addressed this, and the important point here is that you didn't willingly acknowledge any of this, and for some reason I have to force you to see that you have eaten my leftovers when you should have known this from catching up. Which suggest to me you're being willfully ignorant.

Again, what read are you talking about? I do not have a read on Sky or Melkor, please tell me what in the blue hell you're on about.

Idk maybe it's a language thing, wdym by I "converged" with whatever read you're talking about?

 

[Ultra]

Can you imagine that shi? Catching up in the thread, seeing someone give identical reads wot 5 players, and saying "ho hum this guy is my main scum read because I don't like his attitude"

No, because that doesn't happen

 

[Ultra]

Again, what read are you talking about? I do not have a read on Sky or Melkor, please tell me what in the blue hell you're on about.

Idk maybe it's a language thing, wdym by I "converged" with whatever read you're talking about?

There's the post where you conceded your read on Sky with the same, and then the post where you implied Melkor's thoughts were genuine (really don't know any other way to interpret it, unless you're just trying to be greasy on purpose)

You're brushing over your main scum reads too like it's nbd

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Stop dodging the question m8.

Can you explain how you saw me give exactly all your reads and walked away thinking I'm scum

Fucking hell lmao

I'm saying our reads are not the same, I don't even agree with you that CP is scummy. There's two posts of his that I didn't like, but I thought he came out on top in your argument earlier. Before you ask, not on any merit contained within the argument, but in that he struck me as the more natural guy throughout all of it. His frustration looked more natural to me than your bravado.

 

[Ultra]

Idk maybe it's a language thing, wdym by I "converged" with whatever read you're talking about?

You came to the same conclusions but didn't see it relevant to acknowledge or credit me at all essentially

 

[Luka]

All the reads Luka is making read to me like "they farted here but farting would antagonize others so ima lean town"

Okay, so I think I can safely presume you aren't reading my posts.
Xadlin feels town to me, similar with last game. Doesn't have an agenda, just trying to have fun ^^. Weaker than last game though. It just isn't clicking.

 

[Luka]

I just quoted it you absolute moron

illiterate fuck head

vote lynch craigpelton

 

[Ultra]

I'm saying our reads are not the same, I don't even agree with you that CP is scummy. There's two posts of his that I didn't like, but I thought he came out on top in your argument earlier. Before you ask, not on any merit contained within the argument, but in that he struck me as the more natural guy throughout all of it. His frustration looked more natural to me than your bravado.

He came out on top because he looked more "natural"

Can you put down the salt lamp, crystal balls, healing poultices and the astrology stuff and qualify how he won that argument? He's still got tiretracks imprinted on his chrome dome. I smoked him. This is probably the best you can say because tbh his case wasn't convincing whatsoever. Nice try.

 

[Luka]

Either her or Luka atm for me but I'm fine with other options too.

Look into my soul, ISO me, find me town. We thrive.
Ignore the qoute in that. I misqouted something.

Why exactly do you think this would be indicative of anything though - why exactly couldn’t he do that as scum, or why would he obligated to as town?

Mafia is not a game where both sides thinks out everything. It isn't meticulous, people do things subconsciously and consciously. They don't need to feel obligated as town. Infact, why do you think this would be relevant of anything? At worst its a bad meta read, at best its a really good one. What's wrong with that?

 

[Sky]

32 pages readback for fuck's sake

Let's go then

 

[Luka]

I’m relatively certain flower isn’t mafia at minimum, and the ‘what about ME reeeee’ prism doesn’t make sense as Indy so … guess I’m just gonna have to work with it

Yeah. What does this add? Can you give thoughts on other things?
Feels similar to tweet last game, really hesitant and not doing much intentionally.

 

[Sky]

Feel like scum is more likely to ask this in PMs / Scum chat. At the very least this is lean townie, I would argue my strongest town so far(despite how most of them are very very weak town leans).

I've never played with Luka - this is a very weird angle but seems genuine. Is this in Luka's wheelhouse, anyone who's more familiar?

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

There's the post where you conceded your read on Sky with the same, and then the post where you implied Melkor's thoughts were genuine (really don't know any other way to interpret it, unless you're just trying to be greasy on purpose)

You're brushing over your main scum reads too like it's nbd

I legit can't tell anymore if I'm being gaslit or just too stupid to get what you're on about. That's to say, if you are gaslighting me, congratulations, it's working.

WHAT read on Sky? I said I think you're talking a whole lot of nothing about Sky. That has NOTHING to do with what I think of her. I can look at someone rambling on and on about nothing and point out that that's what he's doing without having any opinion on the subject he's talking about. Is that clear enough?

As for Melkor, what I basically said with that post is, I can see a world where Melkor believes those things that Gram didn't believe Melkor believed. That's not me taking a side either, that's not even close to the same as saying, yeah I absolutely believe that Melkor believes that and he's town for it. It's literally just me saying, ykno I can actually kinda buy that maybe those are genuine thoughts. That's nowhere near a definitive read nor an irreversible decision on what I think about Melkor and the thoughts he presents to us. AT BEST it is a comment on one thing Melkor has said that I may take into account if I ever get to the point where I'm forced to form an opinion about him.

That's the thing I don't like about you right now, you're portraying things as way more black and white than they are, and it comes across as super disingenuous and not the least bit interested in actually trying to figure people out. You'd much rather just sit there and assert I stole all my reads from you while I'm sitting here and still have no idea of what your reads on Sky and Melkor even are right now. Can you understand how I might feel just a little bit gaslit by you right about now?

 

[Sky]

So you changed your reasons then: first you voted next saying I'm saying too passively and I didn't vote anyone. Now it's I'm not voting the way you think I should.

Surely if you want to determine if someone's passive, random fluff phase votes don't count. Magic's point stands

 

[Luka]

Yeah i think I've back read most of the relevant things.
Votes staying on Craig till they die, even if they are good which is impropable imo I just dont want to play with them.

 

[Sky]

I don't think you played in last game, so I have no meta on this user at all. Despite this, that's a thought I could easily see a townie come to given I can recognize it in hindset. Therefor, town lean for this.

This seems really early and hasty for a town lock? At the very least I can't see a scum doing it, I just disagree with the thought process there. Ratchet is GTH town for similar reasons as Watson though, last game from what I can recall they started with a game related wall post and not much else. Here they're just genuinly playing the game and seemingly having fun.

Rather easy town lean for me, given we weren't quite in serious mode yet when I made that post :

 

[Luka]

Rather easy town lean for me, given we weren't quite in serious mode yet when I made that post :

Last game on the first page I had 4 towns, and I was fully serious on all of them ^^

 

[Sky]

Not great, since I do not have Gram as a town read still. Though a lot of people seem to have town read on him now.

@Sky your reasons why Gramm is the strongest town read for you? I also asked @Magic about it.

I get the feeling a scummy thing to do when I questioned the town read on me would be to walk back a little. That would leave the option open for what Gram probably sees as an easy mislynch. The fact that he hasn't feels genuine

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

He came out on top because he looked more "natural"

Can you put down the salt lamp, crystal balls, healing poultices and the astrology stuff and qualify how he won that argument? He's still got tiretracks imprinted on his chrome dome. I smoked him. This is probably the best you can say because tbh his case wasn't convincing whatsoever. Nice try.

I explained earlier that if people go at each other in an extended argument, I pretty quickly stop looking at the subject matter that's being argued about and rather have a look at how people carry themselves. You're free not to like that of course. I can't tell who's had the upper hand in the argument as far as the content was concerned because frankly as far as that goes, I tune out within three posts or so.

 

[Aurelian]

Surely if you want to determine if someone's passive, random fluff phase votes don't count. Magic's point stands

No it doesn't lol.