DBZ/GT Toeiland power

[ChaosTheory123]

I see

Maybe a decade ago, but the process of earning a doctoral degree can best be summarized as “full sprint marathon” not because the content is difficult, just sheer volume and constant stream of it all.

Anyways could ya calc this feat

Maybe eventually

Gonna hazard a guess it’s generically at least into the large planet range just off how it goes down though. To push star level (like the Sun) would require some high relativistic expansion of mass and we might as well just be talking about E = MC^2.

Because KE is eternally just bull shit and hilarious.

 

[Gordo]

Maybe a decade ago, but the process of earning a doctoral degree can best be summarized as “full sprint marathon” not because the content is difficult, just sheer volume and constant stream of it all.

Maybe eventually

Gonna hazard a guess it’s generically at least into the large planet range just off how it goes down though. To push star level (like the Sun) would require some high relativistic expansion of mass and we might as well just be talking about E = MC^2.

Because KE is eternally just bull shit and hilarious.

Side note, wouldn’t Goku nearly blowing up the Sun in the Cooler movie count as star level? The explosion itself massively dwarfed the Sun

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Side note, wouldn’t Goku nearly blowing up the Sun in the Cooler movie count as star level? The explosion itself massively dwarfed the Sun

Happened in a vacuum, ergo no shock wave, needs to effect mass or you just measure brightness.

Did it effect the Sun?

 

[Gordo]

Happened in a vacuum, ergo no shock wave, needs to effect mass or you just measure brightness.

Did it effect the Sun?

The Sun itself exploded then the sky turned dark for a few seconds. Then it went back to normal

 

[ChaosTheory123]

The Sun itself exploded then the sky turned dark for a few seconds. Then it went back to normal

???

Does anything explain this, because I’m not really understanding how it can go back to normal if it was destroyed? Wouldn’t it just be more likely Cooler’s attack detonated, blocked the light of the Sun for a bit, then it resumed after?

Also, would be expanding FTL if actually destroyed. Cannot do a KE for that.

 

[Gordo]

???

Does anything explain this, because I’m not really understanding how it can go back to normal if it was destroyed? Wouldn’t it just be more likely Cooler’s attack detonated, blocked the light of the Sun for a bit, then it resumed after?

Also, would be expanding FTL if actually destroyed. Cannot do a KE for that.

It’s never elaborated on, maybe the movie pamphlet mentions what happened but I’ve never checked

I always just assumed the Sun dimmed out then flickered back on due to movie logic

TFS’ version of the movie had Goku blow up the Sun and then Popo restored it instantly with his power

 

[Gordo]

Christ that is some awkwardly translated English

Like, the hell does "trained Goku" mean? Does he play fetch? Can he roll over?

Is there a better raw and not machine translated version of this?

ビツグバ ン級

Huh, literally does say Big Bang Class/Grade

Going back to this old post, here’s the scan by the way

Not sure if you can read the text but the relevant info is on the right page

Same exact guide calls Goku the strongest Saiyan though

The strongest Saiyan raised on Earth, he is the father of Gohan and Goten. Goku has consistently powered up whenever facing formidable enemies in the past. Even during peaceful times, he never neglected his training. This time, he will showcase a new technique, the Dragon Fist.

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Going back to this old post, here’s the scan by the way

Not sure if you can read the text but the relevant info is on the right page

Don't know if Capture2Text will help me too well with this one

 

[Gordo]

Don't know if Capture2Text will help me too well with this one

銀行を積んだ悟空にしか会得で きない事/ 強敵ヒルテガーン を着させるために史上最強のこ の技が はじめて放たれた!」 悟 空のすさま しまじい気を一気に爆発さ 仕に必技は は大地を、天を買

This isn’t all of the text from the passage but its most of what I pulled from the scan using an app

 

[ChaosTheory123]

銀行を積んだ悟空にしか会得で きない事/ 強敵ヒルテガーン を着させるために史上最強のこ の技が はじめて放たれた!」 悟 空のすさま しまじい気を一気に爆発さ 仕に必技は は大地を、天を買

This isn’t all of the text from the passage but its most of what I pulled from the scan using an app

銀行を積んだ悟空にしか会得で きない事/ 強敵ヒルテガーン を着させるために史上最強のこ の技が はじめて放たれた!」 悟 空のすさま しまじい気を一気に爆発さ 仕に必技は は大地を、天を買translate from japanese to english with proper grammar as best you can

"The technique that could only be mastered by Goku with the power of a bank was unleashed for the first time in order to make the formidable opponent, Hirtagean, wear down! Goku's tremendous energy, which was released all at once, explosively shook the earth and reached the heavens. This ultimate move was a force that could not be ignored."

Pretty sure something was butchered because the fuck is this bank?

Also,

Wonder how much lag there is between Goku appearing and disappearing with IT, because this scene is nonsense if there is none to it.

 

[Gordo]

Pretty sure something was butchered because the fuck is this bank?

Also,

Wonder how much lag there is between Goku appearing and disappearing with IT, because this scene is nonsense if there is none to it.

I asked ChatGPT as well, these were the translations it gave me

The translation is: "This technique, the strongest in history, was unleashed for the first time to make Goku, who has accumulated training, master something that only he can. It is aimed at facing the formidable opponent, Hildegarn, and the tremendous energy of Goku, exploding all at once, shakes the earth and reaches the sky."

A more refined translation could be: "This historically unparalleled technique was first unleashed, accessible only to Goku who has undergone rigorous training. Its purpose is to confront the formidable foe, Hirudegarn, and as Goku's astonishing energy explosively bursts forth, it shakes both the earth and the heavens."

Yes, the text mentions that this technique is referred to as "史上最強のこの技" (shijou saikyou no kono waza), which translates to "the strongest technique in history" or "the strongest technique ever."

I asked to see the “bank” translation and it said this

In this context, "banked" refers to the accumulation or storage of power. It suggests that Goku has stored or saved a significant amount of energy in preparation for using a powerful technique or facing a formidable opponent.

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Dragon Ball Feats - Android Cell Collection

Android 19 = 345 pixels Crater Depth = 885 pixels Android 19/Crater Depth = 2.565 Android 19 = 1.83 meters (Yamcha's Height; they both look vaguely to be like it) Crater Depth = 4.694 meters Crater Depth = 27 pixels Crater Diameter = 207...

onelastforum.com

^And one arc to go~

Surprised this nothing arc even had this many feats to bother with tbh.

 

[Flowering Knight]

i never doubted solar system level cell

 

[Triple Accel 555]

i never doubted solar system level cell

Are there guides/scans that confirms that Cell have the power to destroy the entire solar system? - Dragon Ball

If you have it, then give it please.

www.neoseeker.com

To be fair there many statement and databook about Cell Solar System.

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Are there guides/scans that confirms that Cell have the power to destroy the entire solar system? - Dragon Ball

If you have it, then give it please.

www.neoseeker.com

To be fair there many statement and databook about Cell Solar System.

Like I said, anime only statements up until that random ass official news blog

Even then, take it with a grain of salt. Still more than the manga had otherwise.

 

[Triple Accel 555]

Like I said, anime only statements up until that random ass official news blog

Even then, take it with a grain of salt. Still more than the manga had otherwise.

I know about that. Just want to posting about there many databook about Cell is Solar System.

 

[Gordo]

Going back to Dragon Fist being the strongest technique in history

Wouldn’t that put it above a (suppressed) Gogeta/Vegetto

We never saw them go all out so I’m ok with FP Gogeta/Vegetto > Dragon Fist > suppressed G/V

It kinda makes sense too. Hirudegarn was Buuhan tier and Dragon Fist murdered him instantly

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Feel like that’s a reach to extend the powerscaling to putting it beyond forms that are quite literally stronger than him in every conceivable way

Hell, trying to extend it to Gogeta or Vegito in any fashion effectively creates an ouroboros of sorts. At least with shit like the Spirit Bomb, that shit is external to Goku. Here, he’s supposedly just storing power? We already know what his limit on stored power is when he failed to charge his Ki to maximum against Kid Buu. Is that really worth any sort of Vegito or Gogeta?

 

[Gordo]

Feel like that’s a reach to extend the powerscaling to putting it beyond forms that are quite literally stronger than him in every conceivable way

Hell, trying to extend it to Gogeta or Vegito in any fashion effectively creates an ouroboros of sorts. At least with shit like the Spirit Bomb, that shit is external to Goku. Here, he’s supposedly just storing power? We already know what his limit on stored power is when he failed to charge his Ki to maximum against Kid Buu. Is that really worth any sort of Vegito or Gogeta?

The movie guide states he trained some time after Buu’s death and eventually created this technique. All forms of Buu are trash compared to Dragon Fist (Hirudegarn one-shotted both Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks effortlessly, that’s puts him well beyond Buutenks territory and he’s still fodder to DF)

Like I said, I’m ok with putting it above the (very, very) suppressed versions of Gogeta and Vegetto that we saw. I don’t think the technique is stronger than their full power

 

[Triple Accel 555]

In Buu Saga manga version during the time when Goku and Vegeta fight Kid Buu Old Kai said Kaioshin Realm will not get easily get destroyed.

Japanese version

After their fight against Kid Buu Old Kai comment they nearly destroyed Kaioshin Realm.

Japanese version.

Goku says that Kid Buu would take the universe in a "Poof", herms, the translator of the scans in the kanzenshuu, confirmed that the translation is correct.

Here herms statement about translation itself.

Goku and Buu fight nearly destroy Kaioshin Realm which size is confirmed around 1/10 macrocosm.

Dragon Ball Daizenshuu #7 - Pages 35-50

Dragon Ball Gods & Cosmos Guide | The Universe - Kanzenshuu

www.kanzenshuu.com

Here the scene of Goku order Kaioshin and the others to leave Kaioshin Realm.

In Episode 279, before the fight even began, Goku tells the Kais and Dende to leave to one of the planets in the Lower Realm, with the Elder Kai even treating the destruction of the Kaioshin Realm as a possibility. This was further reinforced throughout the SSJ3 Goku
vs. Kid Buu fight in Episode 280, with Kibito Kai stating they were destroying the Kaioshin Realm. Kid Buu also caused extensive damage to the Sacred World of the Kais in the former episode, which could argued to be the size of many galaxies.

Episode 287 Elder Kai also commented the fight between Kaioshin Realm is destroyed.

Buuhan almost destroy Universe if Vegito don't stop him.

imgur.com

Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.

imgur.io

Daizenshuu also note the tecnique about Buuhan destroy universe is the same power which made him out of Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

Databook also claim Majin Buu is monster who can destroy Universe.

Enfrentamiento con los subordinados de Babidi

Para evitar que Bu, un monstruo con el poder de destruir el universo, vuelva a la vida. Kalo Shin y el grupo de Goku Imumpen en la guarida de Babidi. Sin embargo, Dabra, el rey del mundo de los demonios, convertido en subordinado de Babidi, petrifica a Krilin y a Piccolo. Para salvarlos, y aun sabiendo que es un trampa, Goku y el resto de los luchadores entran en la nave de Babidi, donde deberán enfrentarse a todos sus esbirros. Tras derrotarlos con facilidad. llegan ante Babidi, que afirma que Dabra los vencerà a todos.

Translate
Confrontation with Babidi's subordinates

To prevent Buu, a monster with the power to destroy the universe, from coming back to life. Kalo Shin and Goku's group Imumpen in Babidi's lair. However, Dabra, the king of the demon world, who has become Babidi's subordinate, petrifies Krillin and Piccolo. To save them, and even knowing that he is a trap, Goku and the rest of the fighters enter Babidi's ship, where they must face all of his minions. After defeating them with ease. They arrive before Babidi, who claims that Dabra will defeat them all.

There also statement Goku need Super Genki-Dama with energy from entire universe to destroy Majin Buu in DBZ episode 288.