dont think ud spend this much time in a dumb interaction when thread is dead as scum, like whats the point
i can play mediator here
i liked the points u brought to mango and ratchet re: why mango shud be more wary of ratchet. i think there was some cluster fk nomenclature misunderstanding around weather you/they were talking about meta or not but its irrelevant to me. whether u were talking about the same thing they were or something else, you still brought points i agree with, even if it was a different goal post. i think trying to make the interaction about where the goal is more than your actual points is weak. i feel like the crux of your points were mostly met with "fair", and the rest of the discussion was derailed to whether the interaction was about meta or not, which wasnt very fruitful in terms of helping me read ratchet
also not a fan of ratchet's read on you being noncommital, i.e whats the point of saying he's not voting to lynch at this stage. adds to gram's point that the vote is indeed performative, regardless of the overarching motive behind it