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Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

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Hans Tweetenberg said:
Feel free to prove this
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Ultra said:
If you'll notice I haven't actually mentioned Gad today, and while I did have him down as scum yesterday, I don't know why you'd assume

A) He's a higher priority to me than Magic

B) I don't think you could just be bussing the dogshit out of him
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Ultra said:
Goalpost moving - the point is that Gad being in my suspect list doesn't mutually exclude you

What's scummy here is you're implying my read on Gad must be fixed and I am forced to base my worldview around it even when you're playing like shit, and coming from you specifically, I think it looks bad.
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Hans Tweetenberg said:
It's the fact that he went with the bussing angle and riding that horse until well after it was dead and then suddenly came up with "A-HAAA I'm not even 100% sure Gad is scum so I don't have to follow you". If he argued that from the start I could maybe have bought it, but that's not what he argued until very very recently, so I think it just took him that long to come up with it.

Also it's clear he read me scum from the Magic thing but I don't think he ever cared to quantify whether he thinks I'm ahead of Gad in terms of scumminess or not
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He did earlier is the discussion say he has Gad as less scummy than you. As for the rest, I don't think the stated thought process works when you consider that he had Gad as scum back in Day 1 - it only really works if he's backfilling the argument. I suppose you could argue that you supporting a push he thinks could be scum should warrant further consideration from him though, and on that point he can defend himself.

In terms of further consideration, what do you think the scum motivation would be for him defending my points Day 1 vs Magic? Obviously it would be to get me on side but that's a bit of a zero sum game all things considered, so personally I can't see much of an angle for him to be scum with from there.

FWIW my read on this is that you're both Town, think you've both been pretty stubborn in your own way and looking beneath the surface, I don't see a smoking gun for either.
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
That you scum reading Gad too means Ultra shouldn’t have scum read you.
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Not quite. My argument is that it makes no sense for Ultra to wanna go for me instead of going for a player I am currently voting, based on reasons that he 100% agrees with. And then he went and explained that he can do so if he thinks I'm bussing etc etc
 
Dr_Professor83 said:
If it’s not sold anyone yet, it’s probably not going to yeah? Anyone who will be convinced by it will be there by now
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Feels like about 6 people have played today and the rest are bystanders. That's another reason why we shouldn't be doggedly pursuing claims right now actually. I am surprised to see Magic isn't even voting Ultra despite wanting his claim, though.
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
Not quite. My argument is that it makes no sense for Ultra to wanna go for me instead of going for a player I am currently voting, based on reasons that he 100% agrees with. And then he went and explained that he can do so if he thinks I'm bussing etc etc
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Your continued omission of MAGIC here is bizarre

I am trying to lynch MAGIC. Even now with him claimed, and you having not!

It's weird this isn't even factored into any of your posts?
 
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