Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Zeref being completely immortal despite a curse existing which can literally erase people from existence is considered "weak"?
Weak in the sense that we can't go and believe a statement without hard evidence that's the case.
If we go by what Memento Mori is supposed to do(because you know, no one else we have seen got hit by it), then it wouldn't matter because we have never seen it be done on Zeref, he just declares it wouldn't work and kills Mard Geer.
Not to mention Gods in Fairy Tail are nothing to write home about so it gets a bit ridiculous to believe a Curse from one is now suddenly an issue no one else can deal with whatsoever to such an absurd degree except by Natsu alone.
That's my problem with it: We have to believe in constant state of absolutes which ends up contradicting itself like everything else in Fairy Tail.
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His curse doesn't erase anyone but simply kills everyone aroundZeref being completely immortal despite a curse existing which can literally erase people from existence is considered "weak"?
I'm referring to Mard Geer, not Zeref's curse of immortality/black magic.
Yeah and I already explained the issue about Memento Mori because all it has is a statement and nothing else and we cannot do anything about a statement nor can we take that statement at it's word.
Especially considering the fact it begins to strain belief that Memento Mori can't do anything to Zeref but Natsu burning his soul for a bit of fuel can(Or atleast enough so that Mavis can)? Acnologia can't kill the man either? Like none of it makes sense if you think about it for a bit but that's the thing with Fairy Tail in a nutshell:
Mashima literally admitted he never really gave much thought to Fairy Tail past it being a show about friendship and shit. It's funny too because in Rave Master and Eden's Zero, he never falls into this situation at all, not once with any of the NLFs, it's just Fairy Tail.
Especially considering the fact it begins to strain belief that Memento Mori can't do anything to Zeref but Natsu burning his soul for a bit of fuel can(Or atleast enough so that Mavis can)? Acnologia can't kill the man either? Like none of it makes sense if you think about it for a bit but that's the thing with Fairy Tail in a nutshell:
Mashima literally admitted he never really gave much thought to Fairy Tail past it being a show about friendship and shit. It's funny too because in Rave Master and Eden's Zero, he never falls into this situation at all, not once with any of the NLFs, it's just Fairy Tail.
That's the problem though, have we ever seen it do any of that? Because I remember Memento Mori being used once... and it failed against Gray and Natsu which leaves it as just a meaningless statement with no backing which is not how we operate.
Which still doesn't go against my point because if we go in that direction, then that means the Power of Love literally overrode a Curse made by a God which just makes it dumb as fuck that somehow Memento Mori couldn't do it nor could E.N.D. but somehow Mavis could...
Failed because Gray has Demon Slayer Magic to negate spells cast by Demons
Point is Natsu didn’t take down Zeref, the plot itself wrote him out
So essentially Memento Mori has like no feats outside of hype statements.
Sounds like ass
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Take me what so long? That Nasuverse team going to win? I mean it didn't take me long, I immediately say it. Unless you mean you share this already and I say nothing? I didn't see it if you do, that's what
Yea I agree, as I said there, I believe most of the things here wins. Even if the team separated by class
But I am not entirely sure since idk how much stronger FT become, its still unclear to me. People seems to have completely different take on it.
Oh wait you mean what take me so long about R S? I'd still want to give benefit of the doubt they'd grow past their downplaying self
It will go nowhere as I am sure you know, but might as well give them credit if they improve.R S is saying that Cal is amped because Fergus said "Careless strike can destroy 3 hilltops" = "Caladbolg can only destroy 3 hilltops" and yes it is also because d'Eon saying "Caladbolg absorbing the magical energy as it spin" and he take both as "Caladbolg is getting amped! Because it can only destroy 3 hilltops and get magical energy." instead of it just being Caladbolg's natural ability like many other NP to absorb magical energy.
Yeah, this is failure in reading comprehension and misleading argument from his part.
My brother in Christ, you are literally performing a double negative.
Memento Mori has shown no feats of it working as stated... so we should believe it works as stated?!
That's a literal NLF and you should know that's the case.
That's literally not how "NLFs" work.
The statement of what it does isn't contradicted, so it does exactly as it is stated to do.
Nothing more, nothing less.
It erases things from existence that it hits.
There's no extrapolation being done here.
The statement of what it does isn't contradicted, so it does exactly as it is stated to do.
Nothing more, nothing less.
It erases things from existence that it hits.
There's no extrapolation being done here.
Yes, that's absolutely how NLFs work...
No it didn't, it never demonstrated at all what it can do and all we got is a statement of what it can do. That's the absolute definition of a NLF as you are defining that it must work when it failed in it's only use, how it did so does not demonstrate otherwise as we have no idea how it would actually affect anyone.
My brother in Christ, you are basically saying that Memento Mori should be able to affect anyone when it affected no one in it's sole use...
The fact you can't understand that's a walking NLF is absolutely absurd.
Like hell if I’m gonna argue any further when it comes to Fairy Tail
It failed in it's only direct use against someone who could literally nullify the curse itself.
This doesn't support your point.
The attack that's stated to erase things would in fact erase people who haven't demonstrated the capability to withstand attacks that do just that.
That's how this works.
Your entire argument is literally arguing for something that hasn't worked because it was stopped so we should fully believe it can kill anyone and everyone it touches right down to their soul... with nothing showing that otherwise?
And you somehow don't think that's a NLF? Sure bud, you really have pulled a damn good reason out of your ass there.
It's stated to do a thing, and is not contradicted, so it can do the thing it is stated to do.
"Imagine Breaker nullifies powers" is not a NLF.
"Imagine Breaker can nullify any power it encounters" is a NLF.
"Mahoraga adapts to things" - is not a NLF.
"Mahoraga can adapt to anything" - is a NLF.
A "NLF" implies that I'm extrapolating beyond what is shown or stated.
And I'm not.
"Imagine Breaker nullifies powers" is not a NLF.
"Imagine Breaker can nullify any power it encounters" is a NLF.
"Mahoraga adapts to things" - is not a NLF.
"Mahoraga can adapt to anything" - is a NLF.
A "NLF" implies that I'm extrapolating beyond what is shown or stated.
And I'm not.