And this is why Feats and stuff matters
Because Ihiko can be hit by stuff he doesnt recognize as shown when Medaka hit him with the Kurokami Phantom and forced him to swap bodies.
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Because Ihiko can be hit by stuff he doesnt recognize as shown when Medaka hit him with the Kurokami Phantom and forced him to swap bodies.
What was the context for why that worked anyway?And this is why Feats and stuff matters
Because Ihiko can be hit by stuff he doesnt recognize as shown when Medaka hit him with the Kurokami Phantom and forced him to swap bodies.
He didnt see it coming even though he watched her run up to him with the Phantom and called the attack slow. She dipped behind him and hit him in the back and then it worked
which doesnt make fucking sense since all fiction can't be seen but he was able to ignore that shit
I mean yeah that's how a decent amount of abilities are in fiction
you either resist them or you don't and you lose if the opponent uses it and it lands
that's just how it is
the thing is, we only know Zeno and Hakai erase things from existence BECAUSE we're told that they do that
otherwise what makes us believe it's no different than a generic strong energy blast?
it's a pretty common hyperbole to say in fiction tbf, you might not just be remembering well (not like I'm one to talk)
"I'll erase you from this world" (doesn't actually have those sorts of powers, and is just killing them normally)
etc etc
??
Zeref verbatim says that Mard Geer wouldn't have been able to kill him with Memento Mori.
Him saying that doesn't mean shit because we don't know how or why it wouldn't work. Zeref saying it wouldn't is not enough proof.
Man, you really don't understand anything at all...
Mard Geer - "I'm going to kill you"
Zeref - "I'm afraid that's not possible for you"
gee I wonder what that could mean
maybe that Mard Geer can't kill him with anything he does?
we're going from "Memento Mori doesn't erase things" to "even if it does, why would Zeref be unkillable to it"
We are told thats what they do and are then shown evidence of them performing that.
Statement and then Feat to back it up. Thats the part you dont seem to be getting Pax
A Statement and a Feat are meant to work together to support each other. A Feat most of the time can stand on its own, however a statement by itself is a lot more suspect and is harder to argue for.
Yeah but "I'll erase you from this world" is vastly different from "I'll erase you from existence"
A good example is Chakravartin claiming he was going to erase Asura from existence and then didnt. We wouldnt then claim that Chakravartin has existence erasure powers.
It means he couldnt kill him
AND WE DONT KNOW WHY
Zeref could mean that if he used Memento Mori he could just get out of its range or something thereby rendering it useless
Zeref's whole thing is trying to find something that can kill him.
???
Why would he dodge??
Then why didnt he let the Demon try.
Can't say it wont work if you didnt try
we also can't say it would work if he did
Thats the problem
We just dont know why.
The simplest explanation is that it just wouldn't kill him even if it landed.
I'm pretty sure the guy who's lived for hundreds of years trying to find a way to kill himself has tried pretty much every means possible to kill himself knows what would or wouldn't work.
And we don't know if thats true because he immediately killed the demon.
Thats Zeref in a nutshell
There's only so many explanations one can give for the situation though.
A. Memento Mori does not erase things from existence, and Mard Geer was talking out of his ass. (Unlikely)
B. Memento Mori does erase things from existence, and Zeref is unkillable to it (which he says so himself).
C. Memento Mori does erase things from existence, and it could've killed Zeref, yet he didn't let it for some unexplained reason (even though he's trying to die).
So...
That can mean anything because Zeref literally never gave him the chance to try!
This is not like where we see a villain give his subordinate the chance to kill him and it failed, Zeref literally banished his ass and burnt the book before he did fuck all.
Bro, you are somehow missing the forest for the fucking trees! The whole problem is that it's literally featless outside of a statement and we have to pretend suddenly matters for this reason.
Give me a reasonable explanation as to what it could mean then.
Why is it unlikely?
With no backing behind it
This is the situation we are at, because if just reversing what the curse did was enough to kill him permanently, why WOULDNT Memento Mori kill himC. Memento Mori does erase things from existence, and it could've killed Zeref, yet he didn't let it for some unexplained reason (even though he's trying to die).
So...
If Memento Mori could've killed him, Zeref would've let him use it on him.
We are going in circles
Memento Mori cant kill him so zeref killed him -> we dont know that because Zeref killed him -> If it could have killed him Zeref would have let him use it on him -> we dont know that because Zeref killed him -> etc, etc
You are literally telling me that it won't work on Zeref because he said so despite the fact that we never see it fail against Zeref? That's precisely the problem when most series actually demonstrate that it WOULDN'T work before stuffing them.
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