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Ultra

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What does that have to do with anything though? You're assuming that there is a failure point in the first place because ???

I don't really know if that stands up anyway, especially in regards to me, but irregardless I don't understand why you're operating under the assumption option that someone must be pulling the wool over her eyes given the current gamestate.

With all due respect if one of you 3 are scum or more I can already see the writing on the wall with her so I tried to deconstruct her own read list in a way to make her understand that at some point she might need to question that.
 

Ratchet

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not if he does it alot as town in MU. 2 years ago i used to fake scum reading u cuz i did alot as town, it had various degrees of success, but i won most of those games ultimately
That's not the same as playing soft because it immediately puts you at odds with me, whether I scum read for it or not is a different matter but down the line the read is going to be challenged. It's not a read yiu make because you want to play soft, which is to avoid conflict.

I don't know if I would say he has done it a lot. From memory, we've played 6 games together. In two of them have we shared alignment and yes in both if them he scum read me early, though moved off the read mostly in one of them before the end of Day 1. The other one he stuck with it. It's not a huge sample size.
 

Emil

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Where does lethal blindly follow me or anyone? He reaches his own stubborn conclusions and has insulted us loads of times.

The man made an anon account once to flame myself and gram. Whereas mango deeply respects and talks up ratchet(as do a lot of wg players).

So how are you extrapolating that to lethal/myself.
everywhere, if he thinks ur town he follows u more often than not

id say lethal is more pocketable than a fair bit of the posters uve interacted with at that point

remember u said it urself iiirc, u dont need much to win games as scum, just few townies that u can make come to ur side
 

Ultra

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At this point I think ekko because he's pulling garbage out of his ass and using it to justify his stances

The garbage in question being that your case on Flower was obviously silly? Kek.

You really don't understand how someone who showers you with blind adherence and has less than stellar scum play wouldn't straight up finger you as scum as her first game relevant move? Of course your case was silly from the onset
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
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With all due respect if one of you 3 are scum or more I can already see the writing on the wall with her so I tried to deconstruct her own read list in a way to make her understand that at some point she might need to question that.
How many times do I have to tell you that I‘m not an idiot? Leave. Those. Slots. Be. For. Now.

I‘m cooking something. Do not disturb.
 

Emil

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That's not the same as playing soft because it immediately puts you at odds with me, whether I scum read for it or not is a different matter but down the line the read is going to be challenged. It's not a read yiu make because you want to play soft, which is to avoid conflict.

I don't know if I would say he has done it a lot. From memory, we've played 6 games together. In two of them have we shared alignment and yes in both if them he scum read me early, though moved off the read mostly in one of them before the end of Day 1. The other one he stuck with it. It's not a huge sample size.
thats fair, im not accusing him of being soft, just that scum reading u (if incorrect) shudnt look favorable for him
 

Magic

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With all due respect if one of you 3 are scum or more I can already see the writing on the wall with her so I tried to deconstruct her own read list in a way to make her understand that at some point she might need to question that.
Flower has routinely made called me out as scum when I've been scum. Don't think you ever have.

You're again just making shit up

vote ekko

Also think ekko is full of shit too.
 

Ratchet

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With all due respect if one of you 3 are scum or more I can already see the writing on the wall with her so I tried to deconstruct her own read list in a way to make her understand that at some point she might need to question that.
But to what ends lol, it only works if one of those three are scum, and even then it's not really a good process because it doesn't really deduce, or indeed, induce, anything. It's just an arbitrary "well if one of these three are scum your reads are wrong" which is true and all... but it's day 1. I just don't follow what the idea is supposed to be here, if you suspect it to be the case over some sort of meta that would be one thing, otherwise you run the risk of her moving away from the correct solve via paranoia which isn't helpful to anyone or anything.
 

Emil

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Flower has routinely made called me out as scum when I've been scum. Don't think you ever have.

You're again just making shit up

vote ekko

Also think ekko is full of shit too.
u rly giga jestering this up, how badly do u want to die
 

Magic

Resplendent
everywhere, if he thinks ur town he follows u more often than not

id say lethal is more pocketable than a fair bit of the posters uve interacted with at that point

remember u said it urself iiirc, u dont need much to win games as scum, just few townies that u can make come to ur side
I have said thst but you just made up something about lethal often sheeping me with no basis and then used my example of mango and Ratchet from last game to apply it.

You've also just brushed aside the fact you developed a point against me after seeing ultra's tags and not while actually reading it
 

Ratchet

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I do think he is a little different to his recent games though, can't quite put my finger on it. Feels more laid back, and bit more casual and so on. But his entrance especially feels like it would be rather careless for him as scum. Not really sold on it.
 

Flower

No more tears left to cry...
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Flower has routinely made called me out as scum when I've been scum. Don't think you ever have.

You're again just making shit up

vote ekko

Also think ekko is full of shit too.
Just 3/3 times here.

I even had you shot as scum D1 in WoW.

I don‘t have a strong Town lean on you, but trying to tell me I‘m a bad Magic reader is shit. Hell, I even OMGUS‘d and flamed tf outta everyone in Hime‘s game when I was lynched and still called you Town there.
 

Ultra

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But to what ends lol, it only works if one of those three are scum, and even then it's not really a good process because it doesn't really deduce, or indeed, induce, anything. It's just an arbitrary "well if one of these three are scum your reads are wrong" which is true and all... but it's day 1. I just don't follow what the idea is supposed to be here, if you suspect it to be the case over some sort of meta that would be one thing, otherwise you run the risk of her moving away from the correct solve via paranoia which isn't helpful to anyone or anything.

I guess you can say that but in her case I'm just trying to gently correct her in the opposite direction of her bias. Get her almonds activated.
 

Ratchet

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everywhere, if he thinks ur town he follows u more often than not

id say lethal is more pocketable than a fair bit of the posters uve interacted with at that point

remember u said it urself iiirc, u dont need much to win games as scum, just few townies that u can make come to ur side
I don't think this is an unreasonable post.
 
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