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Stocking Anarchy said:
Beyond dimensions was for TTGL (as stated in the novelization, Final Drill and a few interviews with Nakashima).

From what I've seen Otoko can be reconciled with either the Anti-Spiral hiding between the 10th & 11th dimensions not being a cap on the number of dimensions (similar to how Marvel had a meeting of the Living Tribunal & Eternity in the 16th dimension even though Marvel has many more dimensions), or that the different multiverses have different laws of physics, including dimensional layouts (such as that one Dr Who story with Saraquazel coming from a universe with 27 dimensions to one with 11). TTGL & the Anti-Spiral would exist beyond dimensions in either case.

It is possible that even without Otoko the Labyrinth could reach an uncountable infinity of universes/multiverses even without having to go into dimensions or R > F, but to verify that you'd likely need a degree in mathematics. XP

In anycase, hopefully this brings more attention to the more obscure Gurren Lagann feats (and I wonder just how much of the stuff I found they will use).
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Maddie said:
STTGL is infinitely more powerful than TTGL, and Simon on his own transcends all of it. That bodes well for Simon if they make TTGL beyond dimensional alone.

Apparently Simon has resistance to existence erasure? Can he resist high level reality warping like his concept being attacked or being unmade?
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The logic they'd have to follow to get TTGL that high would also make it impossible for Simon to win because applying it to Kyle puts him unreachably higher up.

The 5D imps exist within each individual elseworld and are capable of shenanigans significantly greater than that of the Drama CD. Then you have to account for the Bleed and Monitor Sphere. And then you have to deal with the Source.

White Lantern Kyle literally came into contact with the highest possible level of DC's cosmology. The chain of logic that makes Simon megaversal would make Kyle unironically *omni*versal.
 
The actual argument at the core is that Simon will win because he's outerversal and Kyle isn't.

They use the VSB definition of outerversal where it means "thing unreachably far above other thing as reality is to fiction"

They argue Simon qualifies because of the Drama CD, and Kyle and DC in general don't because......True Form Darkseid was able to fall into a lower dimension. And something cant be "Outer" if you can cross the barrier.

The Drama CD happens when a version of Simon literally does that and then gets sealed into his own dimension

Please let them try to use this unironically in the actual thing, the degree to which they'll be torn to shreds by the internet will be genuinely hilarious.
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
The actual argument at the core is that Simon will win because he's outerversal and Kyle isn't.

They use the VSB definition of outerversal where it means "thing unreachably far above other thing as reality is to fiction"

They argue Simon qualifies because of the Drama CD, and Kyle and DC in general don't because......True Form Darkseid was able to fall into a lower dimension. And something cant be "Outer" if you can cross the barrier.

The Drama CD happens when a version of Simon literally does that and then gets sealed into his own dimension

Please let them try to use this unironically in the actual thing, the degree to which they'll be torn to shreds by the internet will be genuinely hilarious.
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you know Spiral power basically binds all lifeforms and the universe?and basically the only reason why Avant Simon is able to go beyond his own world is because of the power of the other Simon?
i mean yeah sure, you can say you hate the outerversal scaling all you want, okay.
 
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