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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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Irradiance said:
Individual espers, probably. Platinum Wings, creating entirely new branch of supernatural power for the world, stuff? Debatable.
But that's not exactly the point anyway, as we aren't debating Accel vs a power cosmic.
Point was that Magneto blocking power cosmic reality warping with his EM field (honestly what bs were the writers on when they accepted that as solution) doesn't exempt his EM stuff from Accels vector shield. His EM fields aren't in themselves reality warping of a power cosmic's nature, after all.
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It kinda does since nothing stated there fits what Magneto blocked.
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To wield the Power Cosmic is to be in touch with every other living thing at once. It is to recognize that we aren't alone in the Universe... we alone are the Universe. We are the cosmos coming to know itself, to love itself... and when you witness that for even the briefest of moments, you will...
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The Power Cosmic is the name of a vast source of limitless, godly, cosmic energy and power primarily wielded by the god-like cosmic entity Galactus. The Power Cosmic allows Galactus to employ the available absorbed cosmic energies within him to produce nearly any effect he desires, including size-alteration, the molecular restructuring and transmutation of matter, the teleportation of objects—even entire galaxies—across space and time, the creation of force fields, the creation of interdimensional portals, telepathy, telekinesis, and cosmic awareness on a universal scale. Galactus has even been shown as capable of creating sentient life, resurrecting the dead, manipulating mortal souls and remaking dead worlds—including their populations—in every detail.
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Platinum Wings Accelerator only really gamed the system and not to the outrageous extent you are making it to be. Galactus's Power Cosmic completely and utterly bends Reality on it's very whims and allows him to do virtually anything he wants right down to bringing back people, planets and otherwise in 100% detail as if nothing ever happened.

It's not remotely close the same.
 
Xhominid The Fool said:
It kinda does since nothing stated there fits what Magneto blocked.
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Platinum Wings Accelerator only really gamed the system and not to the outrageous extent you are making it to be. Galactus's Power Cosmic completely and utterly bends Reality on it's very whims and allows him to do virtually anything he wants right down to bringing back people, planets and otherwise in 100% detail as if nothing ever happened.

It's not remotely close the same.
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Reminder that Accels vector shield worked against physics altering bullshit before. The listed powers are really not beyond that in nature, it's just on a larger scope and more degrees of freedom... which doesn't matter as Accel has demonstrated universal scope. Given, some of the power cosmics reality warping powers probably work vectorless, which would work.

But, again, Accel ain't fighting a power cosmic, he is fighting Magneto. Magneto can't replicate these effects just because he blocked an attack. Heck, which of those effects did he even block? It's not like resisting an energy beam of that thing equates to resisting every possible effect it has. As it stands you just get that Magneto's shields can resist reality warping, which doesn't equate to offensive capacity in any shape or form.

Also not sure what you mean with "gamed the system"? Any quotes to actually support that or are you just making stuff up?
 
Irradiance said:
Reminder that Accels vector shield worked against physics altering bullshit before. The listed powers are really not beyond that in nature, it's just on a larger scope and more degrees of freedom... which doesn't matter as Accel has demonstrated universal scope. Given, some of the power cosmics reality warping powers probably work vectorless, which would work.

But, again, Accel ain't fighting a power cosmic, he is fighting Magneto. Magneto can't replicate these effects just because he blocked an attack. Heck, which of those effects did he even block? It's not like resisting an energy beam of that thing equates to resisting every possible effect it has. As it stands you just get that Magneto's shields can resist reality warping, which doesn't equate to offensive capacity in any shape or form.
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1. Quit trying to push what Accelerator blocked on the Power Cosmic.
2. Don't try and pretend Accelerator > The Power Cosmic.

Seriously, this isn't rocket science man.
 
When Accelerator can breach his way into an entirely alternate universe under his own power, then we can start talking about him being anywhere near galactus. Until he absolutely dumpsters a nigga that fights the LT on the regular then we can start talking.
 
Idk why galactus was being brought up but don't be comparing to aru to that man. I'll fight ya
 
Galactus was only brought up as Magneto was able to defend from his attack with an EM Shield in one of his Respect Threads.

Which would very much put Magneto way up there even if Galactus is weakened because even a Weakened Galactus is bullshit.
 
It wouldn't hurt to actually post said feat, and if Accelerator is universal+ or around it, you're far better off arguing Magneto crushing Proteus like a soda can if you want to prove a tangible scale similar to his.

There is a difference between Galactus just shooting someone with his eye-beams (Terminator) then actually using said beams to warp reality like when he stripped the skin off of Hercules bones then turned him into slime before restoring him.
 
:kobeha Was reading a bit of fanfiction about DMC for the heck of it when I came across this in the reviews:

Wait a minute, did you just contradicted the lore again? Mundus was never sealed in Hell. He was sealed in a different dimension but what the hell am I saying when this fanfic basically took many liberties already?

Anyways, hope Mundus will be shown to be as powerful as he is in DMC lore considering that he is after all multiversal. The Beastheads who is said to be inferior to Mundus can affect the multiverse after all. Nightmare can destroy the demon realm which is an infinite 4D Structure. And Mundus also killed Pluto who's the first demon king and the first being of the DMC verse. Pluto is known to be so fast he can bypass the dimensional axis of the time stream, making his speed immeasurable which is no brainer because The Fury is shown to be so fast it moves through space and time. Nightmare can also lift the entire infinite demon realm by the way and Nightmare is weaker than Mundus.

Hope the upcoming rematch with Dante will be lore accurate
:wow God damnit Vs Wiki, I blame you for BS like this being considered factual!
 
https://www.fanverse.org/threads/stark-vs-fkt-shunsui.1255853/

Yeah we literally saw how this fight went in canon when Shunsui wasn't nerfed anymore...but Stark's gonna win and with low diff to boot because "muh injury" and "shunsui wasn't physically nerfed".

Of particular note is this line from Mar.
Debilitating injuries will affect your performance, that's obvious.

I don't know what Bleach you've been reading if you think otherwise.
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The actual one. I'm sitting here wondering what the fuck version of Bleach YOU were reading?

Characters fight through grievous injuries with little to no defect to their physical ability all the time in this series. There's only a couple instances where the injuries actually affected anything and, in reality, the actual cause of the drop was the exhaustion of their reiatsu (injuries alone DO NOT cause this).

Ichigo didn't get stomped by Nnoitra because he got some injuries fighting Grimmjow, it was because fighting Grimmjow left him UTTERLY SPENT, to the point even a fraccion was able to beat his ass.

The ONE instance I can think of where a physical injury actually mattered was when Aizen cut THROUGH Ichigo's spine and left it barely even attached. Outside of that? Nothing.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
infinite speed god of war so what does that mean every random zombie you fight in God of 4 is also infinite speed :mjlol
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They'll use the 'muh gameplay mechanics' to shove that away, and continue claiming that 'lore Kratos' is at this stupid level of power he's never actually portrayed at. :mjlol
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
They'll use the 'muh gameplay mechanics' to shove that away, and continue claiming that 'lore Kratos' is at this stupid level of power he's never actually portrayed at. :mjlol
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At this point, it's harder for me to see what's the worst evil between VSB going nuts with the scaling with Infinite Speed shit for "Lore Kratos" or SB consistently downplaying and ignoring the lore for gameplay(and not even all of the gameplay) like they do with Elder Scrolls
 
Kratos can't even beat:
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Xhominid The Fool said:
At this point, it's harder for me to see what's the worst evil between VSB going nuts with the scaling with Infinite Speed shit for "Lore Kratos" or SB consistently downplaying and ignoring the lore for gameplay(and not even all of the gameplay) like they do with Elder Scrolls
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For me, its VSB. God of War was legit my shit back in the day that I played more than an any other game when I first got my PS3, after my 360 broke and I couldn't play Gears anymore, so them wanking the series to high heaven just seriously annoys the fuck out of me. For you, given how retarded SB is with Fate, one of your favorite series, it'll be them.
:mjlol
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
For me, its VSB. God of War was legit my shit back in the day that I played more than an any other game when I first got my PS3, after my 360 broke and I couldn't play Gears anymore, so them wanking the series to high heaven just seriously annoys the fuck out of me. For you, given how retarded SB is with Fate, one of your favorite series, it'll be them.
:mjlol
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Honestly, the Fate shit in VSB is just as annoying as they are the ones who propogated Infinite Multiversal Gilgamesh because they looked too hard into BB and Archimedes being able to create Dimensional Barriers and with their stupid system, that means that Gilgamesh can murder everyone with ease.

This is THEN followed up by REAL dumb shit where they barely even stack Servants correctly(For example, Artoria barely even gets the same stats Gilgamesh does despite the fact she very much would being stronger than him, same with Heracles).

The truly hilarious part is that otherwise for speed and durability(sort of), they are primarily fit closer to what we have them at by large.

Of course, Spacebattles have people who legit played the game but lie on purpose because "If they had that much power, why isn't the Planet destroyed billions of times over?" as if that's not a major issue with Fiction as a whole(This ignores anyway that Nasu usually does equivalents in his works to bypass it like destroying Reality Marbles = destroying an alternative dimension, Grail Mud = to blowing up a Planet, the Planet itself literally gimping them so that they won't kill it and the World itself has LAYERS of Worlds stacked up on each other and working on a FUCKTON of energy)

So yeah, I would say SB but VSB would hilariously enough not be that much further away.
 
Like here's the funny part about this:
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If you get away from the "High Complex Multiversal" shit, they are hilariously MORE FAIR AND HONEST THAN SB IS! :mjlol

And that's what makes it funny.
 
Xhominid The Fool said:
At this point, it's harder for me to see what's the worst evil between VSB going nuts with the scaling with Infinite Speed shit for "Lore Kratos" or SB consistently downplaying and ignoring the lore for gameplay(and not even all of the gameplay) like they do with Elder Scrolls
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SB is the worst forum for vs debating but VSB has done more damage to the hobby as a whole
 
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