Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Astaro

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Corononzon does at least beat most versions of Darkseid other than his True self from what I hear of it
 

Paxton

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So this thread was done several times. It depends on the population of the thread to come up with a consensus. To be entirely honest, it also depends on how you want the mechanics of their powers to interact with each other. For example Esper powers are simply a magic ritual in simple terms. Nothing stopping Arcueid from doing what she did to RoA and just changing how magic works within her domain and render him powerless. She will always be faster than him on top of that when having her backup so he won't be able to blitz either.


"For example Esper powers are simply a magic ritual in simple terms. Nothing stopping Arcueid from doing what she did to RoA and just changing how magic works within her domain and render him powerless."

Fair, but it's explicitly not magic in terms of mechanics.

"She will always be faster than him on top of that when having her backup so he won't be able to blitz either."

Also fair on the backup part, but no, she's not gonna be faster than him.
 

Paxton

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Ah, I got confused.

I thought he meant Arcueid had a backup body in the Inner Sea or w/e, not the backup she receives from the planet.

My bad.
 

Cryso Agori

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How do you claim "fair'' on the backup part and then say she's not going to be faster when that's what backup does ? +1 compared to the opponent's level ? Speed included.
How much does her opponent+1 ability scale? Current Accelerator is solar system level, so if she scales anywhere near the output of the Excalibur that vaporized ORT she would win.
 

Cryso Agori

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I'm pretty sure she already does scale to Excalibur's highest output, I just want confirmation from someone more knowledgeable about me in nasu shit.
 

Paxton

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How much does her opponent+1 scale? Current Accelerator is solar system level, so if she scales anywhere near the output of the Excalibur that vaporized ORT she would win.

Did you miss me and Astaro just now talking about nerfed true Gremlin still being able to replicate Othinus' destruction?
 

Astaro

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* Late Namek Saga Gohan having “shitty AoE”

*Compared to the HST

:hestonpls
 

Cryso Agori

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Did you miss me and Astaro just now talking about nerfed true Gremlin still being able to replicate Othinus' destruction?
I ain't see any reasoning why Accel would scale to that. Are you forgetting that they specifically don't want to use that ability cause they don't have enough power to rebuild the world afterward? It's not something that scales to their entire output, it's a very specific ability, that only High Priest tried and was stopped from doing. There's no reason Accel scales to that.
 

Astaro

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I ain't see any reasoning why Accel would scale to that. Are you forgetting that they specifically don't want to use that ability cause they don't have enough power to rebuild the world afterward? It's not something that scales to their entire output, it's a very specific that only High Priest tried and was stopped from doing. There's no reason Accel scales to that.
Nephthys
 

Paxton

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He takes attacks from nerfed MGs genuinely trying to kill him multiple times after they bypass his reflection.

Even 1% of that is still ridiculous.
 

Paxton

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Isn't this literally just arguing lack of aoe = the attacks aren't that strong lol
 

Astaro

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When did Nepthys try to nuke the world in her fight with Accel? As far as I'm aware she was kinda sandbagging and just having fun with Accel.
Shes the only nerfed Magic God that tried destroying and remaking the world in a one way method due to her nerfed state in NT13

High Priest just settled for dropping the Arrowhead Comet on Academy City instead
 

Cryso Agori

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He takes attacks from nerfed MGs genuinely trying to kill him multiple times after they bypass his reflection.

Even 1% of that is still ridiculous.
Not really? Outside of the whole nuke the world ability I remember their best feats being freezing the surface of WR Earth and then burning it up by hitting another MG really hard.


Isn't this literally just arguing lack of aoe = the attacks aren't that strong lol
It is when they specifically don't use that level of power for fear of destroying the world, it wouldn't make sense for them to then just be able to use that level of power anyway without destroying anything, it makes the entire fear unfounded.
 

Paxton

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I mean, consider the fact that Aleister still can't kill them even despite the fact that he can throw around Big Bangs (that exponentially grow in power), and also consider the fact that they're specifically stated to be able to destroy the world but not RECREATE it, because of their lack of phase manipulation.

I've also considered that there's also no reason for them to be inexplicably immune to his magic all of a sudden, so..

It makes no sense for them to be planet level.
 
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