Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Ive always been curious if negative energy and cursed energy are similar enough to call them the same thing/rule 13 them. AS both are evil energy born of despair anguish and death that give rise to evil creatures.

I think for the sake of a fair fight they shouldn't be but logically they always seemed rather similar. The issue imo is if you rule they're the same undead overlord are rather advantaged by it. As they don't use there negative energy in most of there attacks/abilities (they use mana or skills) and are actively healed when hit with negative energy based attacks/abilities.
 
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Base Haschwalth (melee only) vs Max Cheers VS Mask

Title Haschwalth is basically just swinging his sword (and shield) around. No balance. No almighty. Blut's permitted, sklaverei is permitted if he can use it but not on a combatant.
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Sablés said:
Mask de Masculine wins. Jugram doesn't have the showings to outmuscle Mask
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Blitzed and snapped Fullbring Bankai Ichigo's Bankai like a fucking twig, at a time when he scared the shit out of every Nazi there including Mask.
Sablés said:
but even if he did, he would never take out James with just his sword.
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James hasn't been shown to regenerate from being cut to ribbons, which Hasch can easily do before focusing on Mask.
Sablés said:
They shouldn't. Stern Ritter aren't ranked by their physicals.
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Indeed they are ranked by their overall power and Haschwalth actually lacks most of the basic Nazi abilities and therefore, since Schrifts don't factor into Nazi rankings either, WHAT about Haschwalth pray-tell has to be exceptional for him of all people to be Nazi Grandmaster? :maybe
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And Mask's physicals are based on his ability, not his stats.
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And why does this matter when we clearly see other Nazis have higher stats than him even at his most buffed, most obviously Bazz B.

You know the guy who stalemated the man who no-sold and manhandled Mask at his strongest AND whom Haschwalth murked without much effort.
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There's no reason Base Haschwalth should be his better.
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Other than his having massively better feats you mean. :mjpls
Mar55 said:
Mask should win eventually.
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No sir he shouldn't.
 
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Adamant soul said:

Base Haschwalth (melee only) vs Max Cheers VS Mask

Title Haschwalth is basically just swinging his sword (and shield) around. No balance. No almighty. Blut's permitted, sklaverei is permitted if he can use it but not on a combatant.
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Blitzed and snapped Fullbring Bankai Ichigo's Bankai like a fucking twig, at a time when he scared the shit out of every Nazi there including Mask.

James hasn't been shown to regenerate from being cut to ribbons, which Hasch can easily do before focusing on Mask.

Indeed they are ranked by their overall power and Haschwalth actually lacks most of the basic Nazi abilities and therefore, since Schrifts don't factor into Nazi rankings either, WHAT about Haschwalth pray-tell has to be exceptional for him of all people to be Nazi Grandmaster? :maybe

And why does this matter when we clearly see other Nazis have higher stats than him even at his most buffed, most obviously Bazz B.

You know the guy who stalemated the man who no-sold and manhandled Mask at his strongest AND whom Haschwalth murked without much effort.

Other than his having massively better feats you mean. :mjpls

No sir he shouldn't.
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Yhwach's right-hand man versus a not even top 5 Sternritter.

Gee I fucking wonder how this fight will end up :tupac
 
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Flashing Fist (A Rank): This Karna does not carry a spear, he only has his fists. But, that doesn't mean there is a decrease in his combat power. For he was trained by parshurama, an expert in all aspects of martial arts, so he is accustomed to fighting with empty hands. In fact, when he recalls the past when he was studying martial arts along with Arjuna and Ashwatthama, it gives him a fresh sensation that makes his body lighter than it was when he was burdened with the weight of his spear. The maximum speed of the punches he deliver exceeds the Speed of lightWP. Those who face it can only see the trails of his fists as a flash of light… maybe. It’s just like a flash of a sword without hesitation, that is to say, his fists are just like a sword. “And that is the reason why I am now a Saber!”, he cheerfully declared while in the dining hall. Ashvatthaman, who was eating chicken behind him, had a puzzled look on his face the whole time.[72]
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@shinyPost this for the niggas at space battle to see and see how they react
 
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:tiredpepe2024 ,This stupid website(sp) still believes that servants are not the speed of light
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No, they believe they are Lightspeed... only in the Greek Lostbelt because they now actually believe that none of the Lostbelts cross over with the series well so they pretend that continuity just straight up don't exist anymore.
It's the equivalent of saying that none of the Harry Potter books nor the Fantastic Beasts movies tie into each other anymore(Especially since they LOVE using the "Well Nasu should have included it into F/SN" when you dare point out Servants' stats and abilities do very much carry over due to the Throne of Heroes' existence).
 
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tbh i could see some dbz characters in the universal range overtime ngl
hear me out okay

Z frieza has like 3-4 universal destruction statements and cell like 2-3 while Buu is in the 10+ range statement wise

Frieza/Cell could maybe destroy the normal universe overtime. Buu could maybe oneshot/twoshot the normal verse. DBS characters right now can destroy the macroverse (3-4 uni space times ) in one shot

Nappa is in the 1,5x - 2x light speed direction using Piccolos moon feat

OPM team seems to have better speed so i think they got this
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Oh ...forgot about that outliner speed feat...Well nine live is fast but don't have enough damage to put Toshiro down
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Yes, Shirou 'somehow' casting a spell so fast that "time seems to have stopped"... is supposed to be an outlier...
Let's ignore that Rin, Sakura's, Touko's, Aoko and other Mages can cast spells almost immediately and so can Shirou with his Projections once he gets the hang of them suddenly doesn't exist:

Here, Herakles attack in transit, Shirou uses a partially formed Projection of Caliburn, Shirou proves able to block Herakles strikes. Here, Shirou successfully completes the process of projection and made a stronger version of Caliburn. Here, Shirou wielding Caliburn is able to block numerous blows from Herakles.
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I get it, SB Bleach fans really want Bleach to win shit it shouldn't but come the fuck on.
 
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Yuta will have to beat Ciel down until she's completely out of her very considerable reserves of magical energy to win. That's a huge point in her favor.

She also has an innate resistance to magecraft which is being equated to CTs here, so that makes it even harder for Yuta to do anything to her.

Arcueid believed that dozens of chains - each weighing 100 tons - would only hold Vlov down for ~10 seconds. If you think Ciel is a peer or near-peer to Vlov in terms of raw strength, she shouldn't have any trouble hurting Yuta and Rika will not be able to restrain her for any notable amount of time.

Either Ciel blows his head off or his RCT runs dry before Ciel's own magical energy reserves run out.
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I know that Endevez is trying to be fair to Yuta here... but I don't know how you can explain ANY of this and somehow still act like Yuta has a chance and you still don't add in the biggest caveat that Yuta can't overcome with Ciel:

He cannot kill her at all.

Even if we go with incapacitate and KO(Which is in the thread), Ciel has taken far more damage soak than anything Yuta can do.
So Ciel has the strength, speed and especially the weapon advantage(Seventh Scripture >>>>>>>> Yuta's shitty discount UBW) so there's no way Yuta wins this and Ciel clears the verse effortlessly.
 
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Xhominid The Apex said:



Yes, Shirou 'somehow' casting a spell so fast that "time seems to have stopped"... is supposed to be an outlier...
Let's ignore that Rin, Sakura's, Touko's, Aoko and other Mages can cast spells almost immediately and so can Shirou with his Projections once he gets the hang of them suddenly doesn't exist:



I get it, SB Bleach fans really want Bleach to win shit it shouldn't but come the fuck on.
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Reminds me of that time SB argues Artoria and Morgan took time to fire their things. Was it R S? Artoria raising her hand and then swing is somehow slower than any other people raising for the sake of swinging.

And then when asked how is that taking time they just answer "but she take long time"
 
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Reminds me of that time SB argues Artoria and Morgan took time to fire their things. Was it R S? Artoria raising her hand and then swing is somehow slower than any other people raising for the sake of swinging.

And then when asked how is that taking time they just answer "but she take long time"
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Remember that when they then try and state that they are superior to other vs. sites and then say stupid shit like that :jordangif

"Ubel can defeat Gojo, Sukuna and Accelerator because of she cut through a Mage's Cloth no one else can damage" then conveniently ignore why she could do that and then she explicitly states her own limits on a number of different occasions including the one where they mentioned how she did that feat.

"Mages take forever to cast things, just look at how they state Medea's High Speed Divine Words are" that's because it's literally stated in the game and in the mats even Medea's Basic spell "Rain of Light" is literally multiple high end Magecraft spells all woven together at once.

You could genuinely make a list of the ridiculously insane excuses SB members have made to downplay series and to wank series. Let's not even get into the JJK, MHA or KnY ridiculousness or we would be here all year.
 
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Masterblack06 said:
Im now reminded of that time some dude tried to argue that Othinus could kill Composite Galactus because "she has complete control over the to aru universe"

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Which isn't even true to begin with :tupac

she doesn't transcend the shit that enabled her to get her powers in the first place
 
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