Lad, calm down. You're acting as if this user shot your dog or something. Best to ignore them, unless they come looking for trouble, rather than asking for it.
Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Spacebattles legit believes that SDS is far, far, FAR stronger than what they are actually capable of.
They are basically like Keishin who fully believes in them having massively destructive capabilities and reach Continental and above based on absolutely nothing. EoS characters are lucky if they can get to Country level.
@King of time stop being a fucking spud
Regular-Nothing Eric
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where do you peg jojo's top scaling at nowadays?
Regular-Nothing Eric
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Well wouldn't that this be quite a banger of an interesting match-up?
A boy in a red cap and an electric mouse going up against every single zombies from a gritty tv show?
universal to arguably low multiversal (extremely low here) but the issue isn't that so much as a standard character that can destroy a universe can't get past GER (the Shrike could do it despite being below universe level, because of its very specific type of existence, but that's fairly rare in fiction for characters who don't hit at that level), so generally you end up needing a multiversal character anyways. The scaling for JoJo hasn't changed since the 90s though besides some non canon novels having multiversal stuff in them, but I don't care about non canon with JoJo.
Regular-Nothing Eric
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So in other words, you either need to be wildly above universal level or be even more super-hax than them to solo the jojo verse.
Am I reading that correctly?
it's more that if you aren't multiversal you need a very specific kind of hax, and the characters that have it tend to already be universal or more
GER can instantaneously negate any action that occurred during or after it came into being. So basically the present and future are under its control. Giorno specifically notes his friends are dead and aren't coming back, so we can assume GER cannot retroactively change the past, even though it can alter things in the present (Diavolo punches holes through Giorno's chest and head and GER undid both off-pane;). The issue is just being able to time travel is not enough, because GER could just stop the action of moving from the present to the past. The Shrike bypasses this because it's already in the past, it's omnipresent across time. GER can negate its present and future actions as much as it wants, but the Shrikes in the past will be able to kill Giorno at a point where GER does not exist yet.
Most characters with that kind of acausal nature are already out of GER's league though, so this almost never comes up in threads.
Spacebattles has no idea how to actually properly argue for either of these series
I'm honestly surprised Nursery Rhyme is arguing for some sort of grounded/street level version of Project Moon when we literally see a star-filled dimension get blown up on-screen.
And Limbus Company goes on to prove that the background changes for E.G.O. in Ruina aren't just cosmetic.
What Argalia does just turns it into something directly scalable, because he uses it as an attack and Roland cuts it apart.
And Limbus Company goes on to prove that the background changes for E.G.O. in Ruina aren't just cosmetic.
What Argalia does just turns it into something directly scalable, because he uses it as an attack and Roland cuts it apart.
no clue but the current official translations kinda shoot that argument in the foot even more than the various fan scans did. Diavolo specifically says King Crimson "obliterates time from the universe" now when he uses his ability lol. The matter of whether Diavolo is in another universe made by GER or not can be debated (fan TLs say he's not returning to "reality" indicating it's a new space GER made but official says he won't return to "the truth"...there's some synonymity with them in the context of the arc but it's not a hill I feel like dying on right now)
It was Freddie. lol
Thank god for these new JoJo translations. I remember reading the early 2000's ones.
This is the same Nursery Rhyme that believes that the UA Training Facility is somehow the size of a City and that's how far Bakugo's blasts went to even BEFORE his final Zenkai...
This is also the same Nursery Rhyme that downplays the most obvious feats in the Nasuverse because "He knows better than most"(Including being the one who helped shit on anything Heracles does because "it's not that impressive with context").
Again, Nursery is one of the biggest dogshit debaters in the VS. discussion and that speaks volumes considering the huge level of competition from in there.
he got kinda weird about people saying GER would beat Ajimu or something I guess? But then he would also just argue shit while forgetting what he actually read. It was pretty funny, I got nothing against him.
I don't entirely disagree but Trish's convo with Giorno near the end doesn't make it seem like he can't be in the same space they are in. It's a moot point either way, the KC stuff is enough for me. I don't think it would make GER multiversal anyways, it would just back up the universal interpretation.
though you can also argue that all Diavolo's deaths are just shown in the future and we flashback to when he's still alive when Trish and Giorno are going back and forth so
idc honestly
idc honestly
Is there a scan for this?
it's from around when he fights Bruno for the first time iirc, I've posted it before but I don't have it on hand. Will look around
