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Kamen rider geats vs toaru

Astaro

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???

Show me where Accel and Aleister punches through immortality or resurrection.

If your referring Nepthys vs Accel... Accel putting a hole in Nephthys meant nothing due to her own biology, he doesn't even have anti Regen.



For Zombie, Aleister explicitly modified and hijacked her nerf spell. It's possible he nerfed her before killing her, or her own nerf spell was enough to make her killable, nothing implies that Aleister killed her at full power.

Especially since Aleister was shown to already have trouble killing a nerfed magic god with there matryoshka doll anatomy.

Your just making shit up rn.
Accel at least has Anti-regen going for him.


It was an invisible power that covered every part of the world.

His vector control ability twisted it into a vortex that rushed toward Nephthys like a giant spear.

“Tch!!”

The brown goddess had preserved her beauty even as her torso was blown away, but she finally clicked her tongue and pushed Accelerator off of her. This slightly diverted the spear’s trajectory so it only sliced off a tuft of her long silver hair.

Something was different from before.

The separated hair did not reconnect and it simply rotted away.
 

Paxton

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Who said it's specifically anti-regen though?

It's not a new power per se anyway, he's just using vector control to control what is (likely) focused AIM/energy from the Clonoth to nullify her immortality/magic.
 

Eztephan

Illustrious
how strong is Geats?
As a full ascended deity, he can Recreate the world to one of his wishes or other wishes. Ignore time shenanigan's like time reverse at point of someone powers never existed, time acceleration(something similar to clock up), time stop, etc. Reality warp that can bend and rewrite the fundamental laws of the world or the concept of Desire Grand Prox itself, that would be erased by the Grand End.

I see, does he have any hax to kill other gods/immortals? if not he probably stops at MG's cause they can't kill each other.
Mostly, yes.

Ace was capable to kill Mela and Suel, that are inmortal like all the people of the future that exist as information in the Metaverse and the death of they avatars in the present only cause the respawn of they in the Metaverse/4th Dimension, also they exist as information without a physical body and other things.

Geats is universe level because he reset the world into normal after defeat black geats.

Black geats not only affected present timeline but also future where humanity live in the space and he erase all of them.
Also in Geats & Gotchard Winter movie he also was able to reset the dream worlds created by X Wizard magic.

And in Kamen Rider Gaim is showed that the "dream worlds" like the one created by Lapis one of the Overlords of Helheim, are actually other time-lines in the Kamen Rider Cosmology.

And Mela or XGeats destroyed several worlds and kill several gods like Susanooh or Loki, in him World Destroyer Game

Main question is whether or not world in this case means only the planet or universe. And if his powers are equal to someone like Kouta(who has universal reality warping)
Yes, also Kouta warping was something above the "universal" level, considering that all the mess up of Saver a fake man of begining was capable to exist in every iteration of the Rider worlds/mulitverse and even above after use the Saver system, even in the ones that aren't Gaim worlds and Kouta just rider kick him and call it a day.

Mela, the main villain of Geats movie is a god killer dude from the future, he had a list of gods that put Ace and Kouta in the same level also, after kill a god Mera destroy his world and even the death of Baldur means the end of all the light in that Time-line.

@Eztephan calced geats at some level of rel-ftl too from dodging lightning. As for time stuff. Even you believe that guys like Accel or aleister can kill him, they don't have any defense against time manip.

It's only once you get too Alice and MG tier you get chars with time manip abilities.
That was only Boost MK2 Geats and after that Geats had like 3 or 4 power ups.

The biggest high end speed feat and PS are those:
EoS Ace as a deity trascended time itself in his own words ignoring the Time Reverse and Time acceleration of Suel.

Other deities like the Man of the beginning and the Woman of the beginning can travel in the time or to other time-lines by sheer speed and also that Kamen Rider Saver thing of exist and move in any time-axis at the same of Gaim novel.
 
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Cryso Agori

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Other deities like the Man of the beginning and the Woman of the beginning can travel in the time or to other time-lines by sheer speed and also that Kamen Rider Saver thing of exist of Gaim novel.
The one with Kogami right? I've brought it up before but problem was whether or not its canon to Gaim.

As far as I know that hasn't been accepted.

 

Eztephan

Illustrious
The one with Kogami right? I've brought it up before but problem was whether or not its canon to Gaim.

As far as I know that hasn't been accepted.

Yes, and as far i know is canon to Gaim, considering the fact that the novel happens after Duke & Knuckles Gaiden V-Cinema and not in a alternative universe or some what if.

Also what is the main point against Kamen Rider having a Megaverse or whatever therm to something bigger than an traditional Multiverse? Even without the novel of Ryuki, in 13 Riders special, Shirou say exactly the same thing about the Mirror World being his own infinite set of universes, by the fact of every reflect in a mirror is actually a universe.
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But that probably can had it own thread. But even in Zi-O and Outsiders the mirror world is referred as an different time-space to the main Rider Multiverse and you need special methods to connect with them.
 

Cryso Agori

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Yes, and as far i know is canon to Gaim, considering the fact that the novel happens after Duke & Knuckles Gaiden V-Cinema and not in a alternative universe or some what if.

Also what is the main point against Kamen Rider having a Megaverse or whatever therm to something bigger than an traditional Multiverse? Even without the novel of Ryuki, in 13 Riders special, Shirou say exactly the same thing about the Mirror World being his own infinite set of universes, by the fact of every reflect in a mirror is actually a universe.
DyzToGF.jpeg


But that probably can had it own thread. But even in Zi-O and Outsiders the mirror world is referred as an different time-space to the main Rider Multiverse and you need special methods to connect with them.
@Aurelian's argument was that the universes were on the same integers. As each rider world isn't separate.
 
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Astaro

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“Mirrors facing each other create infinite number of worlds.”

Those exact words say together with the mirror world included there’s an infinite set of worlds
 

Cryso Agori

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“Mirrors facing each other create infinite number of worlds.”

Those exact words say together with the mirror world included there’s an infinite set of worlds
Yes an infinite multiverse.

Check the thread I linked. My argument was that each Rider World (as in, the season and any alternate universes spawned off from it) are separate. Which would make each Rider season a separate multiverse. @Aurelian disagreed with Rider worlds being separate, meaning in the cardinalities of infinity, it would only be an infinite multiverse.

That's what the argument was about. I don't really have any inclination to restart it, especially since as of Superhero Senki, Asmodeus and Senki Saber are megaversal as Asmodeus rewrote both tbe Super Sentai and Rider multiverses and Saber defeated him.
 

Astaro

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Yes an infinite multiverse.

Check the thread I linked. My argument was that each Rider World (as in, the season and any alternate universes spawned off from it) are separate. Which would make each Rider season a separate multiverse. @Aurelian disagreed with Rider worlds being separate, meaning in the cardinalities of infinity, it would only be an infinite multiverse.

That's what the argument was about. I don't really have any inclination to restart it, especially since as of Superhero Senki, Asmodeus and Senki Saber are megaversal as Asmodeus rewrote both tbe Super Sentai and Rider multiverses and Saber defeated him.
Most of your links don’t work now

All I’m saying is that scan being used says an infinite number of worlds and that’s it
 

King of time

Exceptional
Then theres Geats Oneness who is strong enough to beat CrossGeats who was able to fight a Man of the Beginning
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It was only said in the novel that he was a target. Whether they actually went after him or would go after him some timw after beating Geats is unclear.
 
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