I wouldn't take Accelerator's fight with Elizard being relevant for Saint scaling at all because Accelerator was holding back immensely the entire time. It's outright stated he could've killed her at any moment. And how do you even "scale" them to Accelerator's vector control for such a context anyway? It's not telekinesis.
Saints downscaling from Gabriel's Sweep/energy which has statements ranging from turning half the planet to ash to knocking the planet out of the Sun's orbit sounds good to me :mjpls
The Sephiroth doesn't really "make" phases such as Heaven, Hell, Asgard, etc per se Human thought/observation shapes the already present formless energy into those realms but I agree that this is basically nitpicking
Shouldn't Flaming;Sword also be mentioned? Pretty sure traversing down the Sephirah in... 0 time(?) would be arguably faster than Gungnir. Nerfed MGs already have statements of destroying the "world" (and thus logically scale to Othinus), yet Flaming;Sword is portrayed as being impossible to react for anyone present.
In GT9? JVA did a lot. Countering Dragon King Touma's reality warping with his own, insane precog/simulation of the "world" that enables him to pull out basically anything like a Gate of Babylon on cosmic steroids, a passive defense that makes him non-existent, etc.
Actually fuck it I'll come back to this at a later date because I can't properly explain this I'll concede on this for now (you don't need to reply to this message)
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