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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    Eh your right, Im running on about three hours of sleep, apologies. I just wanted more quotes because my recollection of the series is the dragon randomly saying no I cant whenever the writer realized that'd take a lot of tension out of the sereis. The overlord thread is in the works, it just feels like theres so much weird nonsense that requires me sorting through the books to figure out.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    TBF movie pennywise is probably fucked, none of the movies ever really delved into the whole universal deity aspects of kings work. Pennywise is simply depicted as an alien feeding on fear and eating kids. Saying that I also don't imagine he'd actually be stopped from nomming kids in whatever town he sets up shop in. Oh no there's a demon that eats a bunch of children every few years...The ogre tribe down the road comes for a basket of kids every couple weeks.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    Penny wise:....Nope Lilynette: What? I thought it was a fair deal, ill play with the kids, get them really afraid then you can dispose of them, as a mithril rank adventurer I can go quite far and nobody will stop me sending people your way Pennywise: Just no...Just go way Im not dealing with this Lilynette: Your no fun Pennywise: NEVER COME TO MY PART OF FANTASY DERRY MAINE AGAIN
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    If thats true thank you, I literally just can't find anything other then low quality english dub clips on youtube for that scene, where he says it's impossible without anything else. Im willing to bet polunga scene is presented differently in the dub as well because.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    WHEN WAS THAT SAID YOU DISENGOUS PEICE OF HUMAN GARBAGE, FIND ME A QOUTE. The clips I find are the dragon simply saying it's impossible. Its if its explained somewhere tell me where. Im stupid at times ill admit but atleast when I try to make a claim about a series I like I can usually find quotes.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    It literally wasn't though? Atleast in the dub/clip I just checked he simply says it's beyond his ability/is impossible with no further explanation. Then krillin simply ask him to remove the bombs. Your literally putting words in the dragons mouth unless this is explained somewhere else.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    Because it's not that simple the rules aren't ever established beside shenron randomly saying bullshit is outside his power. And we all know the real reason the androids aren't made human isn't because it would break the setting or "RULES". Its because the author wanted them to stay androids, like ninety nine precent of the writing in series, its bullshit made up on the spot to get him out of whatever situation he doesn't like. The fucking petora got fully revamped because he realized he couldn't bring vegito back under the conditions he set in dbz, even though he'd already written an out for himself with kai splitting using the dragon balls
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    You say that he then immediately removes the bombs from their bodies with zero issue despite their "power". Heck his wording from the clip I found is simply "It is beyond my power" Without any further explanation. So he can freely warp things out of there bodies but can't warp them back into humans? Even knowing what we know from later in the series they're mostly remodeled humans?
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    IDK I only watched the anime and afaik it is never explained in any way why vegito could still fight as a chunk of choclate/how majin buus powers worked (He needed a ton of ki to wake up IIRC). I guess it could be but the weird part is it only partially worked, everyone else became an unmoving chunk of candy, vegito got to keep fighting. Hell when were the differences between ki and magic properly established/explored? Unless it was back in Dragon ball I literally have no memory of it ever being discussed in dbz. The series kinda just goes, theres magic, theres ki, and there are dinosaurs, this is the world deal with it.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    I thought that was more just a limitation of the dragon in general rather then specifically resisting reality warping, where it can't affect people stronger then it's creators unless they allowed it? Its presented more as a flaw with the balls. Saying that Im pretty sure that stipulation only exist because the dragon balls kinda wrote the series into a corner when the characters had a dragon radar and reached speeds that let them get the balls in a matter of days... hax in dbz has always been weird, Like the candy ray, it still technically worked on vegito, he could still just fight as a chunk of chocolate. The series has always kinda had the problem that punching things is the ultimate solution, the series really, really doesn't like presenting problems the protags can't punch through with a power boost/new form.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

    Worth noting she actually could, she had several artifacts that allowed her to increase her flight speed to catch up with him, she just felt no need to as she was technically just making a show of it. Pandora's actor and albedo didn't fight to "win" there only goal was learning more information about their enemies. This is why pandora's actor didn't buff any of his summons/only summoned undead of level seventy variety despite being able to summon level nineties. It was basically one big gaslighting campaign rather then an actual battle. Heck pandora's actors equipment is actuall a spare suit of ainz in that battle, far weaker then his real stat boosting set. (Normally Id throw up the qoutes but ill be away from my pc for the next couple hours! Ill add the qoutes when Im back though if anyone desires them!)
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    Who are the worst protagonists ever?

    Ill throw one, james heller prototype 2. Now being fair he's not a terribly written chracter on his own, he's a generic action hero that wants his daughter back...The problem is the world around him and the power set they gave him with the story they wanted to tell. James heller is gifted the same powers as alex mercer...This makes him a defacto man eating abomination against god, he literally eats people to steal their faces, skills and memories. With the occasional snack on other monsters to get stronger. Now short of starving yourself I really can't think of a way to make this powerset "good". At best you might reach a dark nuetral point (only eating criminals/those that "Deserve" it) but they're really designed to be edgy evil powers. His powers fundamentally don't work with the character the writers wanted and the story bends over backwards trying to pretend heller isn't an abomination. Most notably three to four missions in we go on a mission to eat a commander, and...
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    Who are the worst protagonists ever?

    You know credit where credits due, ainz may be a terrible monster but he doesn't have the generic isekai design.. Heck even among skeletal isekai protags his fucked up proportions/skull makes him stand out.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Allright then it sounds like this is probably as dumb as I thought it was going off my limited understanding of cyberpunk 2077 (Played the game on launch....Was a....Experience, should really give it another chance soon), if their more powerful abilities/powers are that context specific. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/great-tomb-of-nazarick-overlord-vs-night-city-cyberpunk-2077.1163442/
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Does cyber punk have any really good hax/ap feats Im unware of? I never watched edge runners but the universe always seemed pretty grounded feat wise.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    I mean if you go with some of the authors statments aren't most of the sword arts in demon slayer literally them just tripping balls...
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Every once in a while im reminded that donald duck from kingdom hearts is one of the single most powerful final fantasy sorcerers and it kills me.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    TBF this is reason to suspect overlords power would still work if you ripped them from their homeverse, mainly that is the backstory of new world, that it was corrupted by the nature of players who were using there powers to establish themselves as god kings. (Its why dragon lords consider them taint/polluters of the world, the world didn't used to have tiered magic/function off the gamey systems) It's all pointless semantics of course cause no vs debate assumes powers dissapear unless the op is specifically noting things to work that way. Like saying "Human ainz" or "Kirito outside the game" Saying that still one of my fav old threads where everyone pointed out ainz was a decrepit thirty year old man living in hell with fake lungs and eating nutrient paste while kirito was a somewhat healthy teenager.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Since when and why? Im honestly curious like I said jumped after a couple hours of grinding so Im really out of touch but the whole verse felt really low stakes.
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    Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Is genshin impact really that crazy? I only played a couple hours but I never saw anything that seemed impressive. while I agree ainz gets his teeth kicked in by sora/donald/goofy (zeta flare still makes donald the single greatest mage in final fantasy) Lets not pretend he wouldn't have some epic battle for the sake of spectacle. He had an epic boss battle with fucking clayton, Im 99% sure kingdom hearts bases the length of the boss fight off how cool they think the enemy looks.
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