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https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/alcides-fgo-vs-misaka-mikoto-toaru.1018684/ My alignment was chaos this morning so I need to make it someone else's problem :mjpls

https://onelastforum.com/threads/shin-megami-tensei-megaten-feats-and-discussion-thread.1152/ The chart is just a visual guide of which series is connected to which + that's not even the chart I use Devil summoner is related to the original personaverse before the universal reset but that ended after the reset. I'm not sure where this higher realm discussion is even going, we don't use dimensional scaling and the reset is the best feat we have to go off of for Philemon AFAIK

survivor and summoner are separate timelines/universes/multiverses yes, I just don't remember exactly where without the chart

"Personaverse" is just an umbrella term for the universes of the Persona series SMT has multiverses which essentially, do no interact with each other Devil Survivor 2 doesn't interact with the main series either, and the events of the main timeline do not occur in DeSu 1

I really just forgot he existed :mjlol

The Persona verse is connected to the overall multiverse of SMT yes, but the Kagutsuchi in Personaverse is not the Kagutsuchi from Nocturne.

that's from the main series isn't it? I'm pretty sure Persona universe is essentially disconnected (Persona's kagutsuchi isn't the same as the avatar)

It's back a few pages, Hunter started it IIRC

You're going to have to take it to the SMT thread, as I've already stated the palaces aren't full universes from when I played the original game and we don't scale to the main series, so none of the 3/4/5 protags scale to universal or higher from those If that changed in later releases I couldn't tell you EDIT: I can't comment on kagutsuchi because I've forgotten he even existed

I don't know of any feat beyond universal so that's where they sit, 3/4/5 universe was literally created in 2 okay actually I think they're universal+ but I don't recall any multiversal feat

Mada's description is literally just ported over from the main games, the full collective unconsciousness abstracts are ~universal and beings like igor/izanami/nyx etc. are below Philemon/Nya While they share the same name/appearance Shadows and demons have different origins and even histories so we don't scale them to the main series unless something changes in a new release

They're not full universes it's still a wash because if you believe yu/makoto/ren are at minimum equal they'd still be ~planetoid level at worse and ren up to galaxy level at best

@Crimson Dragoon https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/gear-5-luffy-hybrid-form-kaido-vs-dangai-ichigo-hogyoku-aizen.1017594/?post=84592014#post-84592014 Nuke level telepathy has evolved :mjlol

Just Scion ~continental if I'm remembering old SB threads properly EDIT: supposedly Full Entities have up to galaxy level durability but A this comes from suspect members on SB and B this is some kind of silly "total mass across parallel worlds" or some shit but they can have their forms blown apart by far weaker attacks

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/abel-devil-survivor-runs-a-megaten-smt-protag-gauntlet.1017078/?post=84529914#post-84529914 >clapped fucking Metatron >even far weaker demons like King Frost are planet level Stop pretending you fake ass fan

We already proved literally no one knows how strong TF is except bayformers :mjpls

And yeah stables has brain damage weakened Nel in base was matching Nnoitra any high tier in TYBW would wreck him even with a nerf

Zaraki's squad prizes battle strength above anything else yet are inherently scared of Unohana despite the fact she never drew her sword during SS for battle, so even as far as back as SS Arc this line of thinking falls apart

7 pages of 1 man defying logic

I was going to disagree cause most threads I saw has modern earth losing, but then I found these: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/taliban-vs-covenant.234344/ https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/doom-eternal-invasion-but-its-against-us-military.902741/ :mjlol