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Anyway, thanks for the game @Poyser Onto the next one... :dumbpepe

I was more talking about gameplay than balance - I don't think this set up was too unbalanced when you size all the pieces together, but I do think that mafia had misdirection tools to spare and in their end they didn't really have to work for it to soon the PR's around the block as long as they claimed and didn't come close to burning out. And I think referencing poor ability usage, even if correct and even if the math checks out, some have expressed disappointment, since the primary direction of the game should be determined by lynches/mislynches.

I would say this elements isn't that bad, but I think mafia just had too many tools to begin with. Some calculated bus drives and redirects should be rewarded, but they didn't even need to spare those as the had framer as well Also, I'm sorry Rugrat, but I physically cringed when he posted a *fucking survey* in the thread on who to shoot. Making it completely obvious who he was (and the answers were thus subject to mafia answering). Plus waiting a century for the lethal kill. For all the shit I've gotten I think the other PE's did somehow even worse

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Does the subject get no credit? Who else eats a red check for breakfast and then gets killed by the mafia? :ultra:

If he's town at least I don't think my reads changed much, but we still probably lose.

[Vote Lynch Lethal]

I mean from the standpoint of lazy town/mafia pushing me, they don't have to bother with an effort and just rely on me getting lynched by default.

Lack of risk.

The ones playing at a distance with no engagement attempts. Not all of these have had the opportunity, like Dodd, but I know what kind of chirping I can expect tomorrow.

A little annoyed that I'm no selling the red check so easily knowing the usual suspects will pile on tomorrow like they hadn't had an opportunity to address me now

He has gotten my town read by being *marginally* less scummy and I'm starting to realize he's just getting me used to this stuff

We wrapping up?

I'd like anyone who plans on tunneling me tomorrow when Lethal flips scum to speak up now so I can evaluate whether I should ask the vig to kill me thx

Also, no shots the first two nights. So they're probably playing conservatively and just haven't done so period.

People have outted themselves for much less so my default assumption is that a vig would claim for hard evidence. Even if we were all thinking lethal is scum anyhow

...no.

And why do you think vig would fail a shot and not say anything

Why do you even think there's a vig

It would have to be a provided fake claim or they have cop as a provided fake claim and maybe surmised no millers (tenuous). Raw miller claim risks cc'ing. If he was scum he would also have to be faking the unvoting after the execute which is funny