hmmm does it affect your read that she was the one who made the argument that affected your read?because shes right, the interaction isnt as clearing as i thought..neither is sabers interaction with hime
how strong is ur town read of saber holding btw..i dont see him adding much to the game at this stage
about same for tempest
why do you guys have so many alternative nicknames that dont correspond with your usernameYes.
she faught it initially then stopped once couple of players consolidated on gad as the second target after herI just don't think that's quite it
Like it's very demotivating as a wolf to be the planned lynch in a maj only game and to have been up at l-2 as early as she was prob meant that she didn't want to spew anything too bad on who her teammates were yesterday
not rly. shes doing a move called the melkorhmmm does it affect your read that she was the one who made the argument that affected your read?
My town read on Saber is very strong. He is hard spewed town by Hime tbh.
Tempest, lower. I am town reading him due to how Hime treated him similarly to how she treated me and Poyser. I am looking forward to read what his conclusions are with reading Hime
Is anyone but you going there?why r u not voting tempest?
i mean do they have to? weird question. you sus him or not lolIs anyone but you going there?
So Hime...
Joins, eggs on, and jokes about the GAD sod1 wagon
Has GAD later as top town, to then suddenly shade him to the ground:
Town reads Watson strongly
Town reads Ultra (and Ral lightly)
Shades Cubey
Shades Saber
Protects OLU from Watson
Shades Illwei
First quoted post there is an agreement with Tempest.
Shades Reloaded
also dissuades Watson from town reading Reloaded
Agrees with Illwei tho on Jaguar needing heat
Shades Sigismund
RIP
Will leave Hime's read list and extension of the reads for another post
I have some conclusions that I will elaborate on soon, but here is a tldr
I think Cubey is just straight out spewed town due to how Hime focused much of her energy on shading him (and Reloaded).
The shade on Saber also makes Saber look good. But not as much as Cubey.
Hime's complete uninterest in reading Ral makes me think Ral is spewed town too
Emil subbed in for Jaguar right? I think agreeing with Illwei that Jaguar should be pushed is... slightly townie for that slot? On the other hand... distancing is always there and I can see a wolf wanting to bus their inactive teammates. This doesnt matter tho because Emil is town.
The shade on Sigismund happens in D2 iirc which makes it more complicated to read. It depends on if Hime thought there was a chance to move the yeet from her to Sigismund, in that case, probably Sigismund town. Otherwise, distancing.
Interactions I find weird are...
The Watson one. Like first Hime dissuades Watson from scum reading OLU. Then dissuades Watson from town reading Reloaded. I guess this could be scum having a lil' theatre/distancing. But it also raises my concerns more about OLU.
The Illwei interaction made me at first read it the same as I read Cubey's, but then Hime kinda began town reading Illwei. So idk there.
The GAD one is just wild. From top town to scum. ??? GTH townie for GAD???
I feel like Hime scum sided a lot. Her bottom three are all likely town imo. More to that later.
Oh and both Tempest and I are just shrug read as nulls. Poyser's ignored too a lot. I think Hime did not know what to do with our slots. Makes me town read Tempest more tbh
I thought I had went into why Saber is town more extensively here but apparently not tbhI bet my right boot that all three peeps here are town tbh
Kinda weird seeing OLU here considering Hime defending him against Watson. Reasoning is that they have "fallen off".
I still would like to put a FOS on OLU for that. It feels off since Hime never really returns to this particular thing again, so it isnt like she is trying to work up some cred if OLU'd flip town. It also makes the team Hime/Watson/OLU unlikely.
Watson and Hime felt like sorta, leading the thread? But since every single person in this game seems to town read Watson except me, I guess I will have to relent tbh. Like. To be fair it isnt good distancing to talk like that to your teammate on D1. And both feel like good players. Yeah alright.
So my POE is done for.
I am a bit worried about this regarding Illwei's alignment. Hime puts a lot of details (compared to other reads) on why Illwei should be town read, after shading her for a bit and then agreeing with her take on Jaguar/Sigismund. Illwei has voted Sigismund a lot, so I could see it as a wolf boosting a town to push for another town. Either way, this sort of approach makes Hime/Sigismund a very unlikely team. Because you rarely send a town on an already struggling teammate (or a wolf to another wolf for that matter), since that would give Hime zero cred in an eventual Sigismund flip. It does wash her hands off of Sigismund's blood however... and puts the blame on Illwei.
Was kinda weirded out that Hime wrote to Illwei "you who pride yourself in finding scum" or something akin to that, because I dont remember Illwei writing that (tho i couldve missed it), so at first I thought that maybe that was something Illwei and Hime couldve spoken about in wolf chat. But if Illwei has talked about it prior inside this thread, plus given that boosting her for her Sigismund push... I think that can keep Illwei in my town list.
The GAD approach is super weird. From:
To that he is the slimiest scum ever.
And like, at first I thought big words like that should unpair GAD with Hime, because why talk like that to your teammate? At D1? Wolves shouldnt wanna bus on D1 unless a wolf is tanking.
BUT THEN I REMEMBERED. How me and good ol' Ultra (may he rest in the pet sematary) kept pushing each other and using aggressive language... when it didnt matter. It made like everyone unpair us. But we did that when the lynch was already decided, or when it was early into the day. These pushes on GAD happens when the lynch on Reloaded is already decided.
So it COULD be a low-risk distancing game.
Conclusions:
Cubey, Saber - always town. These are slots btw that scum really need to get lynched. So like, hold on to them.
Ral, Sigismund - very likely town
Illwei - town
Watson - probably town
OLU, GAD - looks the worst out of this, so maybe scum tbh.
boq and tempest i largely have no thoughts at all on
that she struggles to pin down a read on him tbhhonestly wasnt sure whether to put poyser at null or slight town, nothing really makes me vibe "TOWN" the same way it does for watson and ultra
don't see any equity there@Dr. Watson im going to sleep but im going to drop a certified kekko nuke b4 then
thoughts on saber/tempest team?
nor*bro can i get behind a scum saber
skill issue maybe tbh tbf
Ya kill the top posters then the game becomes less fun and active lol.He says killing the top posters is advantageous to the new top poster, which it isn't.
We're sorry, Alexanderwhy do you guys have so many alternative nicknames that dont correspond with your username
it is as if my nickname wasnt Boq but like, Alexander.
I feel like we've talked about this a few times. I think there's scum between you or Tempest. I'm down for eitheri mean do they have to? weird question. you sus him or not lol
its gonna be hard to get traction on anything because of OLU and sigis being 2 vote magnets
what would you scum read me off of? are there comparisons you're making?Ya kill the top posters then the game becomes less fun and active lol.
At this point, I don't really have much to contribute to other than stating that I don't have a bad gut feeling about @Dr. Watson. I don't believe she's scum and I'm basing it on her current behavior in this game. I can probably collect some posts to build some reassurance because I am going off my intuition given what I've already subconsciously observed from skimming this thread to keep up with y'all.
Taking out top posters
I mean he would be aiming for top posters. He says killing the top posters is advantageous to the new top poster, which it isn't. I'm pretty sure he knows that so he probably wouldn't be telling the truth about that being why he wants to vote her.
Not the exact same motivations, but basically still doing just the same thing
Looking back he also had a push onto Poyser before he flipped scum as well. He also voted for Gad and Jaug in earlier days. Not push them nearly as hard as he did Poyser. Then his newest push onto Watson is back to lower effort.
I'd guess probably Boq if AM is scum
This whole approach and proactiveness (for him) is town from him fwiwBecause his interactions with other suspected people I thought Relevant to who he would likely be teamed up with.
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